Wiskas, maybe this'll help . . . “The president was great last night,” Christie continued. “He said he would get it done. At 2 a.m., I got a call from FEMA to answer a couple of final questions and then he signed the declaration this morning. So I have to give the president great credit. He’s been on the phone with me three times in the last 24 hours. He’s been very attentive, and anything that I’ve asked for, he’s gotten to me. So, I thank the president publicly for that. He’s done — as far as I’m concerned — a great job for New Jersey.” Fox News co-host Steve Doocy wondered when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney was going to get some of the same benefits from the hurricane with a photo op in disaster-stricken New Jersey towns. “Over the last couple of months, you have appeared throughout the country, Governor, on behalf of Mitt Romney,” Doocy remarked to Christie. “[W]e hear that perhaps Mr. Romney may do some storm-related events. Is there any possibility that Gov. Romney may go to New Jersey to tour some of the damage with you?” “I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested,” Christie replied, immediately shutting down the idea. “I’ve got a job to do here in New Jersey that’s much bigger than presidential politics and I could [sic] care less about any of that stuff.” “I have a job to do,” he added. “I’ve got 2.4 million people out of power, I’ve got devastation on the shore, I’ve got floods in the northern part of my state. If you think right now I give a damn about presidential politics then you don’t know me.” To be honest, I'm still having trouble seeing how this is even close, from any standpoint, but especially just looking at the campaign itself. The 47% bit appeared to be fatal, and it was damaging because it should have been damaging. Then somehow Obama has a flat performance in one out of three debates, and Romney is right back in it, and actually pulls slightly ahead in a fair number of polls. It's not like Obama said anything stupid, as far as I know. Romney has more money, but both candidates are loaded to the gills with cash, so I'm not seeing that as a deciding factor.
Obama did bad in his first outing because Romney pulled a 180 on everything he'd ever said. Kinda hard to argue with a guy who's essentially agreeing with you by bullshitting. It reminded me a lot of a mock UN they do in high school where some kid who doesn't take it seriously playing Iran decides that they'll adopt democracy, end a nuclear program, and agree that the Jews deserve Isreal. If you're allowed to say anything you want without being fact checked I'm surprised the guy didn't just promise everyone the recession would end on November 7th and everyone will get a puppy.
I didn't see that debate it but I wondered if Obama wasn't just trying a rope-a-dope strategy where he just sat back and let Romney splooge all over himself and then call him on all the BS later, but that never really materialized. My point is, though, no matter how bad Obama did, it wasn't anything as catastrophic, in my mind, as the 47% video. I mean, here's the candidate of a major political party, in one of the rare times he's caught talking when he doesn't think the cameras are rolling, calling nearly half the people in the country a bunch of loser moochers, and he's still in the race. It's just mind-boggling. I guess that's the conceit of Americans though, because we all figure he's not talking about me, he's talking about the other people. And really, it's just the tip of the iceburg with this guy. He's done major flip flops on healthcare, abortion, and foreign policy. Nobody knows what he really thinks because he really doesn't think anything. Has Obama done that bad of a job that he can be beaten by such a complete soul-less phony? Didn't he help prevent a depression? Didn't he help save the auto-industry? Didn't he end a very unpopular war? Didn't he push through universal health care-- didn't the majority of Americans want that back then when it passed? Hasn't he had to put up with an obstructionist Congress and opposition party who would even go so far as damage the country's credit rating by playing hack political games with the debt ceiling, who's stated political goal was not to fix the country but to do anything to bring Obama down? I'm really trying to be objective-- but this one's a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned. I honestly figured there would be a 7-10 point spread by now. I didn't think it would be a landslide, but I didn't think it would be very close. I don't know, maybe by the time we're looking at the electoral college, it won't be. I see some of these statistical analyses that say Obama has about a 65-70% chance of being re-elected.
Your points don't make you sound very objective. And while all of these talking points sound awesome at first glance, there's more to it if you dig deeper. There's no proof we were going to face depression, and we still do not know if Obamas policies have brought the recession to an end, or prolonged it. Saved the auo-industry? At what cost and to who? And who are our tax dollars directly benefitting? It was the same thing with dubyas bailouts: its not the worker who really gets helped, but the screw-ups at the top who make out like bandits. But let's take that one at face value, he saved the auto industry. What about the other companies he used our tax dollars to invest in? What about solyndra? How much of our money was wasted, and to whose benefit? Ending a war? Well sort of. We pulled out on the time table dubya had established. Obama tried to keep us there longer, and only pulled out because Iraq's government said to. UHC really was something a lot of people wanted. What got pushed through is not UHC. It was basically a big Christmas present to the insurance companies. The opposition congress argument doesn't hold water for most broken promises: democrats held power for the first 2 years of his term. Why wasn't Gitmo closed? Why was the patriot act extended? Why was marijuana decriminalized, or at the least, why didn't the feds stop raising states where medical marijuana was legalized? Then there's the whole slew of scandals (solyndra, gun running, Benghazi) that have cropped up. What about killing American citizens without trial? Or the unprecedented use of drones to kill "terrorists" with very little oversight? Let me be clear: I do not support mittens. I think hell be just as bad, if not worse than Obama. The problem is they are basically the same people, and share the same goals, which is status quo. But considering the problems Obama has faced, and standing on his record, I can easily see how it will be a close race. I really wish neither would win, but since that's not happening, I think the best thing for this country would be Obama winning. Obama + republican legislative branch = gridlock, and gridlock means those assholes ant fuck things up even more for us.
Wow, some serious misunderstandings here. I voted for Obama. Like I was going to vote for Romney? Legalizing gay marriage is in the WA state ballot, I voted to support it. Legalizing marijuana is on the WA state ballot, I voted to support it. These are independent of my vote for Obama, though he does have better positions on the issues than Romney in my view. As for why to legalize marijuana, here is an article on the civil rights implications: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/its-not-about-the-stoners/Content?oid=15084994
No worries. But yah, it's awesome to be able to vote online from anywhere. I didn't know I'd be able to do that when I set off for Africa and didn't know if I"d be able to vote at all, good thing where I live, King County, WA, is pretty on top of the technology thing.
On the whole 47% video if you can figure out why is isn't making a big deal when you start actually paying attention to what the president himself and his cabinet have been saying about Benghazi. It is clear is as day. He hadn't been stating the facts about the attacks and we had to get the real information from other sources. When we got the real information from other sources the president STILL didn't call it a terrorist attack for like 2 weeks. It is like duh everyone knows it is a terrorist attack when are you going to admit it is a terrorist attack. Help prevent a depression? By printing tons of money and throwing money at the problem. Yup and he plans on doing that on and on. THE GOVERNMENT HASN'T SPENT ENOUGH MONEY LET'S TAKE IT FROM THE RICH! WHAT HAPPEND IT CUTTING THE DEFEICIT BY 1/2? what happened to that promise? Oh yeah it is because he's too busy spending money and giving it away. Income redistribution. Didn't he pass a healthcare plan that 1/2 of the country didn't want? Oh yeah he did maybe that is why Romney is still in the race.
Affordable healthcare is a moot point for Romney. He wants it all to be left up to the free market. Let the "fox watch the henhouse' type shit. This is a 2 year old article. Things have only gotten worse: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HealthCare/health-insurers-post-record-profits/story?id=9818699 slightly newer and not as biased as ABC news: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/health-care/health-insurance-industry-healthier-predicted On this alone, coupled with the evils of greedy corporations that Romney champions, my choice is really made for me. Though, I hate the alternative almost as bad. My ballot gets filled out tonight and unfortunately, I'll have to go with O-B-1 'bama. What many are not acknowledging, is the commentary these election choices make on what/where our country is headed. In 55 years, this is the most bullshit ridden election I've ever witnessed. IMHO: Greedy investors and corporations got us into this mess and I can't cast a vote for a guy or party that believes that those same entities are going to police themselves and fix this quagmire of a connundrum. The real sollution lands somewhere in the middle, but I don't see any hope of a prez getting voted in from that place.
I got rather short with my Mom earlier this week, she started going on about evil Obama, and how every word is a lie, etc. "Mom, I don't agree with liberalism, and he's not my choice for president. But Obama and Obamacare didn't destroy the economy, the greedy banks and businessmen like Mitt Romney did." She got quiet after that, I'm sure that makes me a closet pinko and a n***ger lover.
How is Mitt Romney greedy? Is it because he paid 14% tax rate. Oh yeah and the reason he paid that was because hmmm...??? Was part of it because he gave 4 million to charity? Oh yeah it was because of capital dividends. Charity + Mitt Romney giving away his money = greedy. Is giving 4 million to charity greedy? Oh wait is it because 1 million of that 4 million isn't to charity it is to the Mormon Church and who knows what the Mormon church does with that money anyways? THERE JUST A BUNCH OF WACKOS RIGHT? How about help rebuild Haiti for one, help with the Katrina effort, and other major distasters but you don't really hear about that in the news. Oh yeah a lot of the numbers I am getting is from this CNN article because I HAVE TO SHOW YOU GUYS THAT I DO READ FROM OTHER PLACES THAN FOXNEWS. http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/21/pf/taxes/romney-tax-return/index.html "Romney and his wife, Ann, gave just over $4 million to charity, the campaign said. The amount includes more than $1 million in cash to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and more than $200,000 to the Tyler Foundation, which serves families of children undergoing treatment for epilepsy. They also reported more than $900,000 in noncash contributions."
Obama has been worrying about getting re-elected since he got elected 4 years ago. This whole year I have been hearing about this so called war on women, war on women, lalala. We need to give women more birth control so they can have more sex. The gays need their right to get married. More people need to be able to smoke weed. We need to spend more billions sending robots to see if mars is inhabitable. Who is focusing on the economy and things that matter. Does it matter than you are going to be able to smoke weed IF DON'T YOU HAVE A JOB? I guess we can all just move to africa, ride our bikes around, and live in trees.
Hrrrrmm. The 2000 election was pretty-damned bullshit ridden. You never know, this one might end up in the Supreme Court, too. This mentality is exactly the reason why the republicans shouldn't be in power.
I dunno, I agree with the pot comment on some level. It's my core fear about legalization in fact. That it'll act as a further demotivator and keep people in a state of arrested development. I would hope that if legalization ever happened that there would be tough laws regarding bad behavior while under the influence, just like their are for alcohol. And nobody on public assistance should test positive for it. If you can afford drugs then you don't need my money.
Yep. Between that and what appeared to be an appropriate response to hurricane Sandy I'd say the odds of reelection are pretty high at this point. My uber-conservative friend Bethany is predicting a Romney landslide though.
People like Greatbam are what's wrong with America. If Greatbam was actually paying attention to anything other than Fox News he would see that the economy has slowly been turning around...but I guess because it's not as instant as turning on a light, it's not fast enough. Where was Greatbam and all his dumb fuck friends when Bush Jr was fucking up everything? Oh yeah, Bush was Republican...and white...I forgot. Greatbam you're a fucking idiot.
I sent in my absentee ballot to Virginia because if I voted as a NY resident my vote wouldn't matter.
What does matter.......will end up not mattering. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012...20121103?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=76 The public doesn't have the balls to fire them all and start fresh, not even to send a message. Nothing changes, if nothing changes.
Holy snikeys, I was just coming here to post that link. [shudders] I'm voting against the freshman incumbent in my Congressional district, Vicky Hartzler (MO 4th). She's a Republican tea-party type who took over the seat from a long-time right-leaning moderate Democrat. Our Senate race pits a relatively moderate Democrat, Claire McCaskill, whom I always liked but didn't always agree with, versus the now infamous Todd Akin.
I think that the moderates are where our sollutions are going to be. This far right/far left standoff is gewtting us nbowhere at all. The crap in the last four congresses has wasted lots of time that sollutions could have been searched for. Instead nothing got done but the problems compounded. for instance: This winter, the debt ceiling problem revisits us, meanwhile campaigning and getting re-elected took priority so another quick fix will be adopted and nothing has changed except the amount of interest piling up on the national debt.
Ummm, can we get a moderator in here? I think we can disagree with one another without stopping to this sort of thing.
