[Post RNC] If the election happened right now...

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Who are your candidates of choice?

Poll closed Sep 4, 2012.
  1. Democratic Party - Obama / Biden (incumbent)

    6 vote(s)
    46.2%
  2. Republican Party - Romney / Ryan

    5 vote(s)
    38.5%
  3. Libertarian Party - Johnson / Gray

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  4. Green Party - Stein / Honkala

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Constitution Party - Goode / Clymer (Cannot gain a plurality; 232 electoral votes)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Justice Party - Anderson / Rodriguez (Cannot gain a plurality; 148 electoral votes)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Socialism & Liberation Party - Lindsay / Osorio (Cannot gain a plurality; 105 electoral votes)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. America's Party - Hoefling / Ellis (Cannot gain a plurality; 93 electoral votes)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Peace & Freedom Party - Barr / Sheehan (Cannot gain a plurality; 93 electoral votes)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Other listed below.

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
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  1. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    Who would you vote for?

    Other options not listed because of poll response limit:

    Socialist Party USA - Alexander / Mendoza (Cannot gain a plurality; 85 electoral votes)

    Socialist Workers Party- Harris / DeLuca (Cannot gain a plurality; 59 electoral votes)

    Reform Party - Barnett / Cross (Cannot gain a plurality; 43 electoral votes)

    Objectivist Party - Stevens / Link (Cannot gain a plurality; 38 electoral votes)

    American Third Position Party - Miller / Abernethy (Cannot gain a plurality; 34 electoral votes)

    Socialist Equality - White / Scherrer (Cannot gain a plurality; 19 electoral votes)

    Grassroots Party - Carlson / McMahon (Cannot gain a plurality; 10 electoral votes)

    Independent American Party - Christensen / Gibbs (Cannot gain a plurality; 7 electoral votes)

    Candidates without party affiliation can be found here.

    Information sourced from Wikipedia despite professor objections.
  2. ShabazKillaX

    ShabazKillaX I'm an F18 bro

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    Oh come on, we all know this place is overflowing with pinko commies. Your poll is meaningless.
  3. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    I actually think it's a fairly even split between liberals and conservatives.

    Also, was fairly surprised by how many Socialist parties there are and how easy it is to get on the Colorado ballot as an official party (all but a few of those are officially on CO's ballot).
  4. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    Can I vote for the 'rent is too damn high' guy?
  5. namelessentity

    namelessentity Resident Cynic

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    I kinda think Obama is my only option without throwing away my vote. Romney is completely out of touch, and the republicans fought everything the Obama administration did at every opportunity. I think a 3rd party would only unite the Dems and Reps to work together on getting nothing done.
  6. Tacdriver

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    Well in this poll I voted Romney (Big Surprise) but wasn't excited to do so. I won't be excited in November either. I just can't in good conscious vote to re-elect Obama. Not arguing, just telling you my vote. I'm really not excited in the least about it. I wish Alan Keyes, Condoleezza Rice, Chris Christie or Jeb Bush would have thrown their hat in the ring. I could get behind those 4 in a heartbeat. Rice will most likely become the next Governor of California though. I wish there was a "Ronald Reagan" candidate out there.
  7. MaesterB

    MaesterB King of the Wicker People

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    Libertarian!!! :)
  8. ShabazKillaX

    ShabazKillaX I'm an F18 bro

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    I tell you, if Romney doesn't win I want to see Rubio run in 2016. Talk about a great American success story. Even John Stewart from the Daily Show likes him.
  9. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Did this really need to be a sticky? The whole field sucks and everyone will be holding their nose come November.
    MaesterB says thanks for this.
  10. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    Politics is always sticky. ;)

    By giving him the primetime speaking spot they're essentially setting him up to run next time. Which is a good move for the Repubs as they're waaaaaay behind on the Hispanic and Latino votes.
  11. ShabazKillaX

    ShabazKillaX I'm an F18 bro

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    Yes, the left does a good job of pandering to them by promising to forgive the fact they cut in line. Every Hispanic and Latino person I've ever talked to who migrated here legally hates those who did so illegally.
  12. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    And what is your suggestion to deal with the 12 million people who are here illegally? You may call it cutting in line (and it is no doubt) but I doubt you or anyone in the right can come up with something practical. But I suspect we will hear the right continue to complain about and offer nothing to fix it but empty rhetoric.
  13. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    To deal with the illegals you simply enforce the laws on the books. Force government agencies, schools, employers, and hospitals to require government photo ID for services, and deport, deport, deport. Had we played hard ball 30 years ago the total numbers would be much lower today. We've had a few sheriffs here in Cincinnati aggressively go after them and it was pretty damn effective.
  14. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    And how well do you think Obama is doing with this? How much money and how big do you think government needs to be to track down all these illegals?
  15. Tacdriver

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    The money is already there. ICE Agents are suing because they can't do the job they're paid for. Politics keeps getting in the way of laws and funds that are squandered.
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    There will be start up cost for the ID cards of course, but it could be slip-streamed into the normal BMV process. And enforcement is simple - the burden of proof and providing the card is on the holder. If you want an education, medical care, or any other government related service you would have to provide ID. Simple. I would imagine the savings just providing health care to illegals could pay for the ID card system ten times over.

    By word of mouth the number of illegals crossing the border would drop sharply, once they figured out that the free lunches were over.
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    FYI, Not just to enter but even to be outside the upcoming DNC, a photo ID is required So poor people and illegals need not show up......just the polling stations is where they are welcome.
  18. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    all of the above.
  19. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Yeah, removing or trying to hunt down illegals would be a fool's errand. But by removing free services to them and granting law enforcement the ability to ask for ID? Oh yeah, that shit would work,
  20. Commissar Smersh

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    So what's the plan for America's crops that will be unpicked or be picked by workers paid more, causing a rise in food prices? Are we just planning on having some hyperinflation to deal with the issue? Not that debt holders would complains...
  21. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    That must be that "self deportation" Romney was talking about.
  22. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    The RNC and the DNC are not concert events, they don't let everyone in and they don't sell tickets.
  23. MSP

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    Absolutely that would be a problem, but you don't leave your borders wide open to avoid it. Besides, unless those pickers show up to a hospital, try to obtain a drivers license, or to enroll their kids in school I don't give a shit. The ID system would slow the influx of new illegal immigrants so that we could slowly phase in some reasonable immigration policies.
  24. Commissar Smersh

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    So hospitals should turn away people in urgent need of healthcare unless they can provide ID? And plenty of illegals have fake IDs btw, should they have to wait for a central system to verify their immigration status before being provided treatment? Does everyone have to run their IDs to prove their status or are we just targeting individuals with better tans?
  25. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    I don't know but if I'm in the ER and I don't have my ID or
    my wife doesn't have hers I'd be pretty pissed if I'm not taken care of.
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