"New York governor signs same-sex marriage bill into law"

The busing example isn't ridiculous at all. It drove affluent white folks to the burbs and they took their money with them. Up to that point there were segregated neighborhoods - white, black, rich, poor, etc. Busing blew up in their face, it's a fact.

And then, to a lesser degree of negative consequence, there's affirmative action. All good ideals behind the legislations, but human defects turned those ideas to trash.
I'm an outsider looking in here. I'm not pro or con on this issue. I just don't see the hypothetical results that this movement's tactics are supposedly going to produce.

I'm not at all concerned with what other people want to do with thier lives so long as it isn't hurting anyone. Nobody's preferences are any of my business unless it's made my business. This doesn't make me anti-gay or a homophobe in any way and I resent someone/anyone trying to make my lack of celebratory behavior out to be just that.
I'm more like: "well good for them, now lets get on to some of the other majorly important issues we as the human race are facing. Issues like what we are going to do without our only inhabitable planet".

Now if the world suddenly realized we're all in this together and 100% puts aside selfishness and greed, starts treating each other with decency and equality in a constant ongoing cosmic orgasm acrost the known universe and into the theoretical multiverse, then and only then, I'll be dancing in the streets naked and celebrating. Until then, I'll remain a gargantuan skeptic when it comes to human interactions. Especially considering that we live in a society built on screwing the next guy for personal gain.

I think I just figured out what I'll write on my sign for the parade. Thanks!

This would be much more effective:

I don't get it.

I didn't either. I'm willing to bet it was sarcasm though. She's pissed at me because she thinks I'm anti-gay. Being neutral doesn't count I guess, thus my "with us or against us"
statements.

The American dream was a single family home, not an apartment. After WWII white people started moving out of the city and into the suburbs. The invention of the car, highways, parkways, etc...

Racist people fled the city when black people moved in.

In part.
imho:
They were leaving
right along with other families, especially families with kids, that forsaw a boost in crime. Not so much a race thing as it was an economic thing. It would have happened even if it was 100% poor whites in the ghetos.

Racist my ass. The drug dealers on BOTH corners of our neighborhood drove us away, we didn't give two shits what color they were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

And so the money left. Who do you think paid for the schools and pavement and sewers? Here in Cincinnati it's pretty severe, forced integration simply did not work. This whole thing was just a side story/example. It's a fact, so let's just move on.

I wouldn't call someone who moved out of a bad neighborhood because of crime a racist. But I would call someone who associates black people moving in with drug dealers racist. White flight is a heavily debated subject and not a fact.

But I agree with wiskas, it was mostly economical. People wanted backyards and bigger homes and white people were in a better position to have them. It also allowed them to distance themselves from the poor (black people and people with accents). I'm not exactly sure what part of white flight we're arguing about, though. My reply on the subject was you insinuation that white flight was mainly caused by black people. I'd say it was more of a big bonus to those racist old honkies. But, hey, everyone was racist back then so it's all cool.

I disagree with you for a lot of reasons completely unrelated to this thread... being neutral isn't one of them. Would I rather people in general were less "eh, whatever" and more supportive? Of course. But I'll take a neutral shrug over and hate-filled outpouring any day.

The slogan is "Pride isn't a sin"... and that was an actual "Thanks" btw.

Wine makes everything better. And at the same time you were enjoying your zinfandel I had cracked open a bottle of sauvignon blanc.