Some guns are designed specifically for that purpose......so what? All...........nope. I'll ask again, how many people are killed in the U.S. by legally owned fully automatic weapons or .50 cal. rifles? Seriously.
The electric chair is designed for killing. There is no conflict involved in the operation of an electric chair. "The Gun" is designed for conflict. Not for target shooting or hunting. Conflict may or may not involve killing. When the gun is used in conflict it overwhelmingly does not kill. It serves the greater purpose by serving the lesser. Of course, guns are so useful they have been modified for target shooting and hunting. Just like wrestling has been modified for sport. All sport stems from training for conflict. The answer is zero. Including stolen fully automatic weapons and stolen .50 BMG rifles. Zero are killed every year. Although, there has been one or perhaps two murders with civilian owned NFA fully auto weapons since 1934. The second murder is not verified. I tried to PM darksides but could not figure out how to do it. Maybe he has us blocked. So please forgive the second post in a row since I don't know how to get in touch with him otherwise. Darksides, Congrats on the C&R! He was right, UZI Talk Forums would be a great place to ask any questions. There are some serious experts there, FFLs, Title II manufacturers (what you are calling Class III) and also lawyers. You may also want to check the hometown section on arfcom for local laws and also check subguns.com. Arfcom has huge amounts of info and subguns has more lawyers. Unfortunately, the signal to noise ratio is very low on both boards. For that reason UZI Talk Forums would be a good place to start since you won't get any B.S. Thanks, and good luck with the C&R!
Ah yes. That explains it. He is some sort of hive mind check this out: UC foldable Submachine Gun | The Firearm Blog too bad its $12.5k...I want
All the guns you mention are Title II weapons. Since May 19th of 1986, there has been an ATF registry of these Title 2 guns. National Firearms Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia lulz
That's the kind of info I was looking for! If that's the case, then this ban wouldn't apply to those, but to 'household' guns like pistols and rifles? If so, I disagree with it. Although I'm still against guns morally
No. I posted this with a lot more information here: http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/off-t...-were-right-get-your-guns-while-you-can-42918 Look for the giant wall of text. Can't miss it. Or maybe you can. This ban, if like the 1994 ban would be worthless, banning only: The bill was clearly made by people whose knowledge of guns extends only to their discomfort from them. A lot like you, no offense meant. The problem is that on this issue, like 950 said, people don't think rationally. How does banning a semi-auto AK variant change anything? There are still plenty of rifles (with faster muzzle speeds, much better accuracy, smaller, whatever) chambered in the same round. It's just 'scary' looking. A bayonet mount? Really? ......... See what I'm getting at here? PS- Taken directly from the giant wall of text on page one.
That's the problem with gun control. People won't take the time to educate themselves to see that guns are already heavily regulated, and the vast majority of the time, it's illegal guns that are used in crimes. No amount of laws passed will make the type of people that use illegal firearms quit using said firearms. I can understand not wanting to read that, but if you ever have the time, it's pretty informative.
Word. So basically "I don't know, and I don't ever want to know". Keep staunchly defending your viewpoint from the dark. Never let knowledge or understanding weigh you down!
Wall of text = someone vomiting their opinion on your face. If you want me to understand why you feel the way you do, make it reasonable for me to learn. May as well argue a point by throwing an encyclopedia at me and saying "start at A and come back to me at Z" while you're shining a flashlight in my face. Plus, I'm Canadian and I understand our gun control. Do you know how gun control works in Italy? Sweden? What if someone from those countries was arguing their points in this thread? Silly yanks
so basically youre lazy? do you expect to be handed a college degree because 4 years is unreasonable?
Completely irrelevant. I'm just not the kind of person to put effort into something I don't believe in or care about. I'm willing to LISTEN but to spend my own time and energy researching something I just don't believe in isn't worth it; there's so much more I can be doing. I'm still open to hearing what you have to say, but since you're trying to convince me of YOUR opinion (I already have my own opinion remember?), you need to put the effort in. You guys have already helped me understand better so wouldn't you be satisfied with that?
Unfortunately the "info" you quoted is NOT the type of info anybody should be looking for. Because it is wrong, and that will put you in prison in the NFA business. Even by mistake, and even if a dealer sold it to you. ATF has thrown people in prison over guns that were recalled because they were malfunctioning. No risk in the case of this rather innocuous bad info, but you are getting you info from places that will get you in trouble. Tweak3D. There seem to be some people here that think they can spend 5 minutes on Google and understand NFA. You are advised to get your information elsewhere. ATF registry on Title II firearms started 1934, not 1986. Machineguns maufactured after 1986 are not for civilian transfer. Silencers, SBRs, SBSs, Destructive Devices, AOWs (pen guns etc.) are not affected.
Well, I think something like a paragraph was my opinion. The rest was all legal information. Quit being so defensive.
So easy to just throw the ignorant word around. That's not it at all. I totally get what you're saying but I just find it hard for myself to put the effort into something I don't care about. I'm interested in learning, but I would rather sit down with someone face to face and hear what they have to say in an more engaging way. The internet is too faceless and doesn't hold anyone accountable for the shit they say, so I can't take shit like this seriously
