Bush has been hunting for Bin Laden for 7 years? Bush really looked for Bin Laden for roughly a year before he invaded Iraq. Look at the current situation in Afghanistan; the Taliban is heavily resurgent and is regaining control of parts of the country. Attacks on NATO forces are increasing, and monthly casualties are now exceeding those in Iraq. Do you honestly think if the US had kept its focus on this region we'd have one tenth of the problems that we do now, or that we'd still be looking for Bin Laden? The US currently has about 23000 troops in Afghanistan, and 7 times that number in Iraq. Wanna tell me why? On to part 2 of my rant... What necessary war? What the fuck are we doing in Iraq? No WMD's, no link to Al-Qaeda. Why didn't we maintain the focus on Afghanistan? Instead, we've gotten ourselves into a quagmire, have created a generation of islamic youth who hate us, and have bankrupted our goddamn government. When all of those T-Bonds we've floated to finance this war come home to roost we are fucked. I think despite being at completely opposite ends of the politic spectrum we're in violent disagreement at least on one point. I also think that we need to focus on Pakistan and Afghanistan, but have pissed away via Iraq any legitimacy we had to do so. Lastly, my hatred of Bush comes from how he's mortgaged this country's safety (do you honestly think we have less enemies now than we before this whole shit show?) for an unattainable and idiotic neo-con agenda. How he's taken a budget surplus and turned it into a massive deficit. How he's spent billions on complete futility. How he's taken the what was the general goodwill of the planet and flushed it down the toilet. How the war that he (he's the "decider" remember?) sanctioned and ordered has claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians, and over 4,000 american soldiers. And what the fuck have we gotten from Iraq in return? New American century my ass. Edit: Insofar as the visa/foreign worker thing. I'm not sure on the employment situation, but my dad's a physics professor, and he's having a hell of a time getting grad students who are worth a damn from the American system. The majority of my dad's group is made up of foreign students, and those who are native are generally first generation.
This section is post gold. I don't think we should completely isolate ourselves politically, but otherwise I agree 100%.
Most of the weapons that Iraq "got" was simply their own. Once Iraq's army was disbanded, everyone went for the weapon deposits that were sprouted throughout Iraq.
Okay, so I was going to make a joke and post a picture of a hairy middle eastern woman, but Google image search was messing with my head. Turn off safe search and search for "hairy" in Google images. That is totally NSFW btw.
How in the heck did what I say spark this outburst? I do not blame any government for my bad decisions and especially expect THEM to pay. On the same token, I do not expect to pay for thier or any other entitiy's bad decisions....now do you see where I'm coming from? BTW, if you totally agree, as is evident by your stance, with the way everything is being run, i'll turn my tax burden over to you. Then maybe I can pay my bills and live as well as you seem to be.
He probably thinks that had the witch hunt for him not been going on he would have been able to get the job done as opposed to getting crap from the republicans who called it a political move.
Are these the people we are so worried about? YouTube - Disturbing images from Iran you rarely see tehran - Google Image Search
Nope, its these.... YouTube - Iranian Leader Khamenei Inspect Military Foot Drill Google Image Search Not that I am for going into Iran, just pointing out that a few photos so some peaceful music isn't representative of a whole nation. (Hopefully that awful music isn't all the have either...)
I don't think Iran is out to get us. Are they against us? Yeah, probably. But I don't agree with invading their country, or any country. Nor do I agree with sending special ops in there for "missions". That usually leads to something worse anyway. I think Iran is a beautiful country (honestly, research it) and through all the bullshit I believe there is a lot of GOOD in it, and I will not be part of any drafted invasion or military strike on Iran, at least with these half-assed reasons to go in. That's for damn sure.
Iran's younger generation needs to hurry up and grow up. We need to get rid of the fucking religious nuts in power.
I did that search as well, however I found most pics to be linked to anti Iranian blogs and political websites. The video wasn't meant as an example of how peaceful Iranians are, it was meant as an example of how americanized/modern they are. It shows you that they are on a positive path and not a nation whose sole purpose is to take away Americas freedoms (although if we keep pushing them, they could easily go in that direction).
stop assuming about people you don't know. the only reason i did that is its faster that way for me rather explaining it from my point of view. as for visas few of my friend are here on J1 and some here on B1. and i know alot of guys from Faisalabad on H1 and some are lucky bastard that won the lottery. so i know alot about US immigration system and also US immigration system is backed up for almost 5 years. there are plenty of kids who came here when they couldn't make there own decision but now they are out of high school and having problem to get in collages because the immigration department is back log so much and with home land secuiry taking for ever to checks. and if you need H1B to come to US no matter how much your line go back you are not US citizen yet. that is correct we may not have huge pool of well educated kids thats where employer in our country need to take responsibility and teach the kids as they learn the jobs. i am sure its alot of work and money but those kid will pay back 100 time over after they get fluent in that line of work they learned. those 3 points Education, defense and treasury only look good on books. you cant run Govt just on that you will have a revolt eventually. your point about parents well its not as simple as you think just to keep family together in financial crysis both parents have to work so they can make some decent money to provide there kids some secure life. USA isn't the kind of country where you get married and your wife is a domestic engineer where she can spend all her time in teaching the kids. they have jobs too. Sure some just do what you said and some parents try there best and fail and some succeed. i defanately agree about political isolation as in (not poke our nose in every one business). I am sure im quoting this from some where i read or heard "If some thing is wrong those who have the ability to take action have the responsibility to take action". So we should help out when we see some thing wrong but not for our own benefit but for the benefit of HUMANITY. NASA is defanately great source of inspiration for many young adults. Personally only thing that inspire me is to learn more then i learn yesterday when i was in young adults category.
But what you discribed was the way it was until the government started oversteping the three points. When the government got into other areas, is about the time a stay-at-home-mom, became increasingly less and less. Have we made progress since the Great Depression? Maybe, maybe not. There has been progress in the amount of things we can buy and become addicted to, but at what cost to ourselves and the other nations that we share the earth with? At what cost to properly raising our families? Could it p[ossibly be that we, and our way of consuming (like the Borg) has a few people upset? Could it possibly be that Iran sees through our bullshit and are calling us on it? If so, WTF? Why do we care what a smallish nation thinks? I believe it was always in the plan to take over that real estate too.
Ya remember back in days Women revolution. Guys out fighting war women running show back home (i am not too good in US history). Im all for equality but in the process they lost the ability to make right from wrong decision and since that time thing just have evolve not necessarly good way. Most eastern society still have stay at home mom concept and i am sure those country probalby have high education rate for the kids. But you see how poorly women get treated there i seen in India, Pakistan and Saudi arabia (i dont know what wtf is going on in that country). Our whole life is a One BIG trade off you gain some thing at expense of some thing else. This time the gain from trade off came at a high pirce of unstable future gen. How many time did you every see some Weak kid in bar or some gathering going up to some Big guy and pick a fight out of no reason. But what happen if same big guy bully the small weak kid and push him in corner. The weak kid will push back. Countries are no different A Jiant like USA and country like Iran, they never would have pick a fight with us. If we leave them alone what ever they do in there own Sovereignty its there business but We just DONT learn to mind our own business. Helping our self first befor getting in other country business. To me its like watching a foot ball game no mater what any one say or do they are running a play from some book. And disregarding every thing around them. I got to stop getting too much in this i am in perfect health but this make me think of soo many ppl i know who are suffering becaues of our foolish govt. I think i will have High blood pressure soon rofl lmao
1) You assumed I was not a US citizen. The employers ARE doing their part. When I graduate, I am looking at making 50k a year starting not including overtime. From wikipedia: "In 2006, the median annual household income was $48,201.00 according to the Census Bureau." If paying an individual a starting salary of over what the average household income is, I don't know what more motivation people need. Communism looks great on paper and we see how that turned out. The way America is supposed to run is the people take care of everything for them self. We are suppose to have a Laissez-faire economy, but the government started the Federal Reserve and now we are in this "crisis" because of that. I'm not saying a kid needs a stay at home mom/dad. If you are able to afford to buy your kid some kind of a game console and a TV, you don't have a financial crisis. Trying you best is not sticking a piece of candy in a kids mouth to shut the kid up. All that makes the kid do is whine when ever he wants something because he knows he will get it. You have to make the kid work for a reward.
I wouldn't count on that 50k being guaranteed starting money (depending on your market) because I was told I'd get 40k guaranteed out of college 8 years ago -- didn't get it. I was offered 30k by most places. Granted, this is Cincy, but I wouldn't go in expecting a guaranteed wage based on wiki stats... especially in a shaky economy (again depends on your location).
Oh, I believe he'll (Justin) get it I do not blame female equality for anything concerning the family values that have been put on the back burner. I do look upon the materialistic wholesalers and the consumerism we're indoctrinated into for purposes of addicting people for profit, as well as our own "needing our wants, rather than wanting our needs", for the mess we're (and our children) in. We have been raised to be addicts, and the "dealers" are jacking us now (makes me wonder why now all of a sudden). Our pursuit of the consumer based life has us working many hours and our females too. there is little energy left to raise a family because our priorities are warped beyond belief while trying to maintain in the rat race we're born into and inundated by. Let's face it, we're all addicted to people places and things, some to more a degree than others.
One of my friends with a Ocean Engineering degree is making ~52k fresh out of school. His girlfriend is a Mechanical Engineer and I don't know the exact salary she is making, but they were paying Mechanical Engineers a couple thousand more then her (both working at Norfolk on subs). Another one of my friends is making ~22 an hour I believe which is right at 45k a year. I didn't get my salary from wikipedia though, just what several magazines and friends are making. I have seen NO way that womens rights have had anything to do with where we are at now. I largest correlation I can see to where we are at now is the Cold War, but that is more on the civil liberties side of our problems...
