Iran getting a little hairy?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Jackalope, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. WoodButcher

    WoodButcher just me

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    Nice find wiskas.
  2. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    Since you seem to think unemployement equates to the quality of living hows this:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2129rank.html

    As to your other point:

    Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    (notice the list of past top countries)

    And for you tree lovers:
    Environmental Performance Index: CountryScores
  3. NoPunIntended

    NoPunIntended Junior Member

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    Not sure if anyone has seen this, I just read it today.

    Magazine says Bush waging $400M covert war against Iran


  4. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Mexico=3.7%(2007) unemployment, USA=4.6%(2007) unemployment.....anything wrong with that picture? And there are alot, lot more people unemployed this year. last year at this time I'd made 3 times what I've made thus far this year. I just got back from the grocery store (spending my truck payment on groceries) and filled a list that last december would have cost me75 bux, today, it was 105 dollars. Last december I filled my truck for 50 dollars, this month, that same tank costs 80 dollars. How bad do we want this shit to get before we concider the possibility that our quality of life is suffering?
  5. JustinL

    JustinL Junior Member

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    Kind of funny... I'm an engineering major, I've heard a lot about the job openings for engineers. They employers are begging for more H-1B Visa's because they are not able to fill all of their openings with US college grads. People are NASA are always looking for college grads. I know of 3 people who just got jobs working at the Kennedy Space Center/Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. One of my good friends was asking me when I was graduating because his department was looking for 50 new engineers. I am working my ass off to finish up my degree. Getting my degree is a right of passage to a "quality" job IMO and if more people are not willing to work for a good job, then THEY are the problem, not the government.
  6. tex

    tex jive turkey

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    Yeah, I don't know wtf he is talking about. I was in EE at Texas Tech, and all the people I know there in engineering are getting offers and craploads of interviews. I have 3 clients that are mostly engineering, and all the guys say the market is booming. Same thing with IT - I am getting people from my network asking me about open positions all the time. Both of those markets are booming from my perception.

    Oh, and I say no more quoting wikipedia in serious arguments (unless we can quote conservapedia with seriousness)
  7. JustinL

    JustinL Junior Member

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    Yea, I am pretty sure that 50% of Lockheed Martins engineers are retiring between 2004 and 2014.
  8. ThatHideousStrength

    ThatHideousStrength Junior Member

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  9. Chris

    Chris Raptor Jesus

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  10. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    Engineering hasn't always had the demand that this day and age has. It's always been a fairly good career if a person was so inclined and has a bit of natural talent. I was headed that direction but a bad call and just one instance of unprotected sex changed all that for me. At 16 I was working my ass off to raise a family. When you take away all the people who have the aptitude, inteligence, lack of bad decisions and lack of motivation.....that leaves very, very few americans that even come close to qualifying for any form of engineering degree.
  11. Tacdriver

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    I was finished with this thread but here we go. Of course we should be in Iran covertly. They are a 3rd world shit hole that's trying to build a nuclear weapons program. This and the fact that they're supplying the weapons to the insurgents we're fighting in Iraq are more than enough reason to justify this. At least we're making sure they have WMD's this time right "Bush lied people died" sayers. We should mind our own business? Does any one really want a radical country like Iran to have WMD's?

    Sorry for quoting what I read in the media about the 6% unemployment. I read that not too long ago from two sources. The Wall Street Journal and CNN Financial I believe. I guess the numbers can only be quoted and then trusted from the media if they reflect Bush in a bad light.

    Last but not least, If you made a bad decision in your life that's caused you to not have the time to further your education..........how is that the government's fault? We can't all be movie and rock stars either but does that mean that The U.S. has to make up for your lack of talent by ensuring you have a high paying job? God I hope that's not where some of you are coming from.
  12. jake

    jake Vagabond

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    Why do you think they are trying to build a nuke? Because the same people who told us Iraq had WMD are now saying Iran does?

    washingtonpost.com
  13. Tacdriver

    Tacdriver Junior Member

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    Well here's just one quick reason.

    =http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/10/16/putin.iran/index.html
  14. demonizeZ

    demonizeZ Junior Member

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    You actually prove my point i am assuming you are not from USA. If they offer you H-1B visa as for people who don't know what that is here : (It allows U.S. employers to employ foreign guest workers skilled in specialty occupations only when qualified U.S. citizens or residents are not available). That was my point. I was strictly talking about kids from our own country. The company getting people from out side rather then using kids that are of same qualification who are from our own country. Please don't think i am bashing foreign workers. All i am saying kids from our own country should get priority before they look outside.

    as for what Tex said. you are right where you stand. but you and i stand on very different levels of life. You have to consider that its not easy for some one with new family to move family to completely new place just because there is job opening. And lots of people are not well educated... with job cuts and soo many unemployed most of em just cant apply for those level of job you talking about. back in days people with no Collage degree were doing fine. The way things are they are not doing well now, and with family and 1000 other problems that comes with it its not easy to start collage education for them. In one of Tacdrive post he said some thing very important "If you made a bad decision in your life that's caused you to not have the time to further your education..........how is that the government's fault?" the answer is obvious its not govt fault. but it is govt fault when cost of life is soo high it costing arm and leg (figuratively speaking). That is GOVT fault to allow the economy to be soo bad that some people have to choose between there pride and meal.
  15. jake

    jake Vagabond

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    Nuclear power != nuclear weapons

    Your link is broken btw. This one works.
  16. Tacdriver

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    Thanks for fixing the link. Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups but I think it's safe to say that in this case........yes. Nuclear Power=Nuclear Weapons.
  17. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Again, history will judge the administration. But you can't argue with how they are handling Iraq at the moment. Maybe the covert operations going on in Iran are part of the reason Iraq has become so stable? Jah knows the Iranians have been doing plenty of meddling of their own, so I don't mind giving it back to them a little.
  18. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    I'm just curious as to what your sources are that say iran is supplying arms to iraqi insurgents? The last thing I read said that said weapons found after defeating some insurgents were from iran and it was proven to be false.

    IRAQ: The elusive Iranian weapons | Babylon & Beyond | Los Angeles Times

    Tac, your hatred for anyone who dislikes bush or this administration is severely clouding your ability to use logic.


    Was that the same assumption you used when Bush made the argument to go into iraq?
  19. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    Fixed

    More stable ≠ stable
  20. demonizeZ

    demonizeZ Junior Member

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    i was talking to some of my friends they said some thing interesting. Any one ever wonder who is the world larges weapons exporting nation on this planet. then ask your self this question how do you increase the demand for weapons sale. WAR comes to mind. So weather its legit war or not as long there is war arms sale will go up and up. Country that sit on top in the list will make most profit from it.
  21. ivwshane

    ivwshane We are all old school!

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    Stuff like this ought to at least temporarily halt some assumptions on the matter:

    washingtonpost.com
  22. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    It is and has long been the US with Russia catching up quickly (again). Though kudos for cracking the secret we've been keeping for years. ;-)
  23. jake

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    Actually I think the UK was the biggest arms dealer last year with the US in second. Im pretty sure I read that in the paper last week.

    Here it is.
  24. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    Those sneaky Brits!
  25. JustinL

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    According to my grandmother, my ancestors came over on the Mayflower. That is about as far back American as you can with out being an Indian. Also, you just cut/pasted from Wikipedia, don't act like you knew all about the H1B visa before hand.


    The ONLY reason employers are looking for more H1B Visas is because there are not educated people to fill their positions. There is no way some one fresh out of high school or with a community college degree in drafting can do any where near as good a job as someone with a full 4 year degree.


    I do not remember the exact numbers, but the number of graduating US engineers are going down while the number of open positions are going up. My school, at around 2004, has something like a 97% hire rate with in 6 months of graduating.


    Man, you are another person wanting to live in a Nanny state where the gov't takes care of everything. The sole job of the government should be:
    1: education
    2: defense
    3: treasury

    It should be in that order. Priority number 1 should be education. The number of kids dropping out of school is a problem. It is not, however, the governments problem. Parents seem to rely more and more on teachers, tvs, games, candy, etc to raise their child then themselves. How many times have you seen a kid crying and the mom gives him a Gameboy/PSP or a piece of candy to shut him up? The PEOPLE need to step up and solve their own problems (right now one of them being the government itself).

    I believe we should have an extensive DEFENSE network. None of this preemptive strike BS. We should try and remain isolated politically as much as possible from other countries. I do not see any downsides to cooperation with other nations on projects like the International Space Station.

    The only part the government should have in money is printing and minting. Instead of this BS borrowing money thing we are doing now, we should go back to the gold standard.

    As a side note, I think government programs like NASA are a great idea. How many of people here have been inspired by something NASA has done? I know it is one of the main reasons I am an engineer.






    I have to think that if we hurry up and tie up our loose ends, we should go back to a completely neutral nation.