Financial collapse of the US

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Chainblade, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. Chainblade

    Chainblade Junior Member

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  2. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    This is one scenario that keeps a case of ammunition in my garage. Dollars could become useless, but bullets are priceless. :)
  3. smirnoff

    smirnoff Curmudgeon

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    I'll have to read this after the hockey game, but I swear Ron Paul is the only one who seems to have any inkling of what is happening. If he can't win before he's dead, there may not be anybody else like him before it's too late. It seems almost essential that he wins!
  4. Jackalope

    Jackalope NNNNEEERRRRDDDSSSSS!!!!!!

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    This seems to happen with any candidate who makes any damn sense... I'm still not buying this article though...the rest of the website is some crazy conspiracy shit.
  5. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    I'll say this - in this world might is right. So unless America runs out of bullets (sensing a pattern here?), our nation will get what it needs.
  6. smirnoff

    smirnoff Curmudgeon

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    QFT. Heck isn't bush over in Saudi Arabia right now trading weapons for oil?
  7. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    It's basic economics that this will happen to us sooner or later. Entitlements, Military spending, and servicing the debt, all combine to outstrip our ability to pay for it, and this has been going on for decades. Like the frog in the pan of slowly heated water, we are content right up to the point we are boiled to death. This is just another bubble we have, like the housing bubble, along with the trade deficit. We have an economy based on moving debt around, and as long as we can move the debt fast enough, we fool ourselves that we are okay.

    At this point, I think America needs a good old-style depression to get us back on track, and get our heads out of our asses...

    ... and bullets won't get us what we need, if we can't pay for it, or pay for the bullets, or get the raw materials to make the bullets, or the oil to fuel the transports to move those bullets...
  8. ThatHideousStrength

    ThatHideousStrength Junior Member

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    Terrorists don't really have to fight us to see America fall in ruins. All they have to do is financially fuck us over.
  9. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    Hahaha, 33% national sales tax. Granted it makes sense considering our consumer driven economy but good luck convincing anyone that they have to pay 33% in tax on any given item.
  10. ThatHideousStrength

    ThatHideousStrength Junior Member

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    That's ridiculous. I think Canada is at 20%? At least they see a benefit from being taxed. I think they do.
  11. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    The benefit being that the government keeps the polar bear population in check?

    <_<
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    ThatHideousStrength Junior Member

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  13. smirnoff

    smirnoff Curmudgeon

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    Depends of the province. I think it ranges from 2-7% plus the 5% federal tax that everyone pays.
  14. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    anyone got some good movie material relating to america in a financial collapse with survival tips? im thinking mad max and escape from la, anything else?
  15. Coleman

    Coleman fresh off the corner

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    T3D refuge on the east coast is located in central Mannboro which is in Amelia county in Virginia. Off of route 60, Mannboro will give us optimal viewing range as well as the seclusion needed to setup a full focused defense. 700 acres are legally mine so we can dispute land wars with a clear conscience. All of Amelia used to be in my families name so really, they owe us. It's fairly tight-knit there so, most likely, we would have them on our side. However, the Zombie Survival Guide suggests that working alone is best. Going against my better judgement, I invite you all. I think that together, we could setup a new stronghold with broadcasting of new hope.

    The local hunting club almost exclusively hunts on our land as it is one of the largest single land holdings in the county. Their local knowledge of the land will be priceless. The land is mostly flat with a few hills and cutting streams here and there. I'll be waiting. 8044675337.

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  16. hans5849

    hans5849 Serious as a heart attack

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    I could go work in Canada I do have the skills.

    People pay off your credit cards and your home loans! the end is near!
  17. Commissar Smersh

    Commissar Smersh HODL Staff Member

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    Fuck that, if the end is near I'm racking up my credit cards and partying on someone else's dime!
  18. saint seiya

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    this country is going down the drain, i blame it on illegal immigration, they take our jobs the bastards!!!!!!!
  19. mattdev

    mattdev liberal crybaby

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    I'm moving my money to Luxembourg.
  20. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    its time for another country to be in control..

    you bring someone with good intentions, someone willing to make a change for the better of our states and he'll get assassinated. It always happens.

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  21. ninefivezero

    ninefivezero infinite resolution

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    While our problems are not totally the fault of Bush, all he has done is spend and spend, borrow money from other countries, then spend some more. He is helping run the economy into the ground. Fiscal conservative my ass.
  22. Ranger

    Ranger Warrior

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    you and me both :p

    when it all goes down lets make a t3d super community!
  23. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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  24. mistawiskas

    mistawiskas kik n a and takin names

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    RIDICULOUS!!!!

    It's time we wake up. Boy am I confused. Listening to the Partisan 'politicals ', I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

    Now .... I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. FAIR: : Immigration and Welfare

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs > such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
    Center for Immigration Studies

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
    English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    CNN.com - Transcripts

    6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is s pent to incarcerate illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

    10. The illegal aliens in the Un! ited States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
    their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01html

    11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal
    aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of dru! gs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern
    border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
    cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Wooldridge - How Much Further Into This Nightmare?

    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States '.
    http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml


    The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR Are we THAT stupid???

    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I
    hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C.- five times a week for as
    long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.
  25. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    thats alot of billions and millions

    good research, way to back up your arguments whiskas!