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Once we're not buying lobster for the "poor" there will be plenty of money for warehousing food and building concrete block housing.

They tried that and it only made things worse: Cabrini-Green - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just found this article for an idea how long people tend to spend on welfare, since I wasn't exactly sure.

That place was a stronghold. Cops wouldn't even bother going up to the top floors after a certain point to get the criminals because there was no elevator and they could see the cops coming (lookouts and all).

They had walls opened up between apartments so dealers and gangsters could go in one apt and come out a different hallway.

You see those black stripes up the building?

Those are open wall hallways to get fresh air and what not, and they put up the chain link fence and other metal grates up to stop jumpers.



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Another good one to know:

Yeah I remember seeing a story about it on DSC. I think it was gangland or something...

Woah there pardner! I never said that. Where did this inference come from? I was just presenting my personal experience with hardship. Reread my post please. Did I say anywhere in there at all that the welfare system is unnecessary? Sure I could argue that it could use some reform, but you need to slow your roll. You assume to know my politics based on a couple of policies and you really don't.

My bad. I guess when you constantly post articles about how the government can do nothing right and the free market is the answer to all our problems, I do assume things.

Oh yeah, even as I was writing my comments above the projects of South Chicago were on my mind. Candyman anyone? But my attitude about that was it just wasn't done right. And believe it or not I think Cabrini-Green was too comfortable, and too big. Smaller, open layout facilities with very little privacy, armed guards if needed. It shouldn't be a place where people would want to spend any more time than absolutely necessary. Would the crime rate go up as a result? Probably. Not sure what the correct answer is for this problem, but I think we can all agree the current system is bullshit.

Poverty is bullshit. It is a signal that the inequity of our society is working against the common person. The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer, thus creating more need for something to fix this.
There will always be the "haves" and the "have nots". The numbers of the "have nots" are growing because the "haves" have gotten all they can out of the "have nots" and
they are now feeding upon thier own.
It's a wicked system we advocate here.

Got it!

^ That's a nice ass jail.
And the reason Cabrini failed is because of the design. It allowed the residents/gangs to pretty much have control over who comes in and out.

I completely agree. Sadly family's like Joker's are the ones you want to help, the ones that are unassuming and have the work through it attitudes, not like these assholes that squirt out more kids so they can get an extra $300 per month. Freaken octomom paid for a plastic surgery with welfare money. Shit like that pisses me off. Folks the toilets already been flushed and were just circling the drain now....so sad!!

Lurker, you kid, but that's exactly the sort of housing that I'm talking about. A roof over your head, controlled by the authorities, and uncomfortable as hell.

And Wiskas, that picture you linked is indeed sad but it's got nothing to do with "poverty" in this country. Show me an American child that looks like that, they just don't exist.

So if someone needs some help with some bills, even if they have a place to live, a community, a family, and can take care of most of their needs, they ought to relocate their life to an armed compound, where they will be treated like animals and stigmatized?

It seems like you are more interested in punishing people that need help, than helping them... (or just making help so shitty no one asks for it)

It's not about punishment at all, it's about comfort. When you make poverty comfortable there's little incentive for people to get out of it. Like all the bums in Seattle for example. You simply don't see that sort of thing here in Cincinnati. The climate is cold, and the local government doesn't make them comfortable whatsoever. So they go elsewhere, or get off the street, etc.