Is White Priveledge a Myth?

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  1. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    http://www.theroot.com/views/white-privilege-myth
  2. MSP

    MSP Haunting a dead forum...

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    In my life it's a myth, and I support the removal of all race based programs. They're outdated notions, and in 2010 are ridiculous and racist.
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  5. mistawiskas

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    We all stand to blame for how our system of entitlement has "evolved". We maintain the jobs of those that bring these things into existence, support the continuation and ammendments to those programs and who make a career out of taking from those that work their ass off to cater to the upper tier and provide no incentive to the bottom tiers. We can blame ourselves because of the belief that we cannot do anything about it.
  6. MSP

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    I'll admit that it exists in that their cultural deficiencies keep them at a disadvantage. In 1960 I would feel somehow responsible for it, but not today. In my world men are just men, color doesn't factor into it.
  7. HEAVY-D

    HEAVY-D Eh?!

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    If you really want to know go to a doctor and have your skin artificially darkened and change your hair style, eye colour to pass as a black man. Go out into the world and see for yourself.

    This will answer your question for you.

    I'm glad you posted this here's another from that site. http://www.theroot.com/views/nigerias-oil-spill-and-missing-white-girl
    http://www.theroot.com/views/white-black-violence-hate-crime-right?obref=obnetwork

    Entitlement programs will have to be cut or done away with to further help this country but no one wants to give up any which benefits them be it civilian, corporate or military.
  8. MSP

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    ^^^ And I'll admit that's probably true too. People are prejudiced. Prejudice isn't racism though, they're completely different. Walking around as a brown man in 2010 I would feel prejudice. Just like the Irish experienced prejudice when they first immigrated to America. But at the time you could hardly blame their neighbors - the Irish were thugs and lived like animals. They got over it thankfully, as most immigrant communities usually do.
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  10. ninefivezero

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    What he said.
  11. Goofus Maximus

    Goofus Maximus Too old to be this dumb!

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    I'm scratching my head on that statement. Racism is prejudice based on race.
  12. Torx

    Torx Indigenous Nudist

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    my problem with racial benefiting programs, especially to races that have generations upon generations of family heritage in this country....

    is..

    its going to come to a point in time where these benefits will continue when its not necessary... almost like... right now.
    there could be a time when latinos hold dominant population in the usa, and they'll still be holding on and clamoring about keeping their "immigration benefit packages" that were passed in 2015..

    but will there ever be a proper procedure to dictate when and if a certain group of people are "well established" enough to not need benefits?? probably never.
  13. MSP

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    Racism = discriminating against someone because of the color of their skin.
    Prejudice = to prejudge, based on previous experience.

    It's a subtle but important distinction.
  14. mistawiskas

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    I'd have to agree on this. Prejudging is usually based on a past experience. Now "ignorance" is basing a decision on something a person really doesn't even know anything about and has no inclination
    to learn. Racism, for example, is bourn of ignorance. Racism feeds off of hatred based on no known facts. My honest opinions are subject to change based on new experiences and can evolve. Therefore: I can be prejudiced, until then, I am ignorant and in danger of being racist. With the willingness to learn, I am not hopeless. Once I take a concrete stand on a matter, my willingness to evolve and stay open to new ideas and info goes away and I stagnate. Alot of what I do and say today, may change given time and the willingness to learn. Yesss, even including illegal immigration, building a mosque at ground zero, government controls and meddling, wasting tax dollars and the corporate empire/capitolism. Until then my prejudices lie where they are until a new truth influences them.
    I'm stuck untill I ask myself: "would I rather be right, or happy"?
  15. Goofus Maximus

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    I'd say that Racism is my definition, and that the discrimination springs from that, rather than being defined as that. The one answer you will always get from, say KKK members, is "I'm not racist". Their prejudice is what makes them blind to seeing what they do as discrimination. So I vote more that it's a distinction without a difference. :D
  16. mistawiskas

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    So maybe the first step is to admit we are all racist. This won't work if it's not an "everyone" thing. By everyone, I mean black, white, red, green, etc......all simultaneously. The: "let it begin with me" thing doesn't seem to have worked well in the past. Denial is a life killer and a waste of time. Wether it be personal, regional or societywide, it's a waste of life and proof against all evidence (AKA: contempt prior to investigation). I have not met a single person that wasn't guilty to one extent or the other.
  17. Goofus Maximus

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    Yep. This is a fundamental part of the way human's minds work. Chimpanzees and Bonobos as well. Our minds are wired to jump to conclusions, and to filter out all data that violate our preconceived notions.

    Even when there are no differences to be seen, we still find ways to build up "us vs them". Take Japan's Burakumin leatherworker class, for instance. Our tribal minds are built to associate ourselves with a group, and see anyone not in that group as "others" to be viewed with suspicion.

    Every human being ever born on this Earth from time immemorial, suffers from this limitation of the brain, myself included. We are all prejudiced about something or someone or some group, even if... especially since... we don't know we are.
  18. mistawiskas

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    http://www.tweak3d.net/forums/showthread.php?53797-We-have-found-you
    You're telling me!
    Try pointing out the downside of living inside the box designed to keep a person in.
    I get all sorts of labels placed on me reguardless of the obviousness of an observation I comment on.
    Instead of just dismissing my observations made from a different vantage point others have, I get dismissed as
    a person with attempts to ridicule and discredit. It's just as you pointed out.
  19. Torx

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    i think we need to bring on the NWO. it could be for the better. one world, one race, one currency, all peace.

    sounds extreme but what if thats been the plan all along?
  20. Goofus Maximus

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    Never happen! The first thing the NWO would do is split itself into groups! :)
  21. MSP

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    Exactly. Skin color is tougher to get past because it's so easy to identify, just a glance. Knowing if someone is Irish or German you almost have to wait for them to speak, or identify themselves in some way such as attire.
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    You can smell the whiskey on the micks and you can see the grease coming off those dirty wops, though.
  23. ivanolo

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    I judge people based on the way they conduct themselves, not the color of their skin. When I was a Spanish tutor in Springfield, I tutored two retired black ladies who were very educated. One of them wanted me to meet her daughter (;)), and the other one told me I was different from most young people she had come into contact with (I took that as a compliment). Also, my Economics teacher at ICC was from Africa (can't remember which country), and although he had a strong accent, he spoke better English than some Americans. Those people made something of themselves. They must have overcome White Privilege somehow. I'm not denying it exists, but I question whether some people use it as an excuse to justify their inability or unwillingness to do things. It's easier to blame others for your problems than to acknowledge you have failed.

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  24. HEAVY-D

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    This is a fascinating topic which makes me wonder if President Obama became president through race benefiting programs.
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