[MSP]

I've sniffed around their forum and can't seem to find an answer to this simple question. I'm at stage 5/6 of the install where is says "Prepare mount points". Partition 1 is my XP partition and I don't want to touch it Partition 2 is for the root (/) and partition 3 is for the swap. But it keeps asking me to select a mount point for my Windows partition. WTF? It's my sandbox PC (aka my daughter's) but I still don't want to fuck up Windows on it.

[Sparky]

The installer wants to find your Windows partition so it will be mountable in Linux. If its a Fat32 formatted partition, you can read/write in Linux, but if it's NTFS, you can only read from it.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense. I'm in the middle of recording some stuff, there's a guitar on my lap, and I'm checking through the tracks.

[Goofus Maximus]

Yes, Linux will recognise your Windows partition, and it want's to be able to mount it, so you can read it in Linux.

[thadood]

Allow it to mount to, say.. /media/windows or /mnt/windows.

That way, you can access the data on it .. at least (if it's just NTFS).

[El_Presidente_Pufferfish]

Originally Posted by Sparky

if it's NTFS, you can only read from it.

ntfs-3g allows writing now, and it works pretty darn well

[MSP]

Originally Posted by thadood

Allow it to mount to, say.. /media/windows or /mnt/windows.

That way, you can access the data on it .. at least (if it's just NTFS).

I manually partitioned the drive and it's ready to proceed. It has labeled the NTFS partition as "/media/hda1", which I guess is OK. I just want to read my MP3s and movies from this partition, so the write thing isn't a big deal at this point.

[Sparky]

Originally Posted by El_Presidente_Pufferfish

ntfs-3g allows writing now, and it works pretty darn well

Cool, I didn't know that.

[MSP]

So excuse my ignorance again, but does Ubuntu 6.06 have "ntfs-3g" or is it something I have to install seperately?

[Sparky]

Download it here. (Direct Link)

Then, unpack it into a directory, open up a terminal in that directory and type:

./configure

Let that do its thing, then type

make

After that finishes, type in

make install

That's the standard way to install just about anything in Linux.

Just use that site as a manual and you'll be all set.

Once you get that working, you'll want to put that in your fstab so Ubuntu will mount it at boot time. (fstab is a text file in /etc/)

ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -o silent,umask=0,locale=hu_HU.utf8

Replace the a1 with the correct drive/partiton. I just skimmed the article, but that information looks alright.

[ThatHideousStrength]

This is amazing, I didn't know they got full write!

I think I'm gonna be able to convert to Linux a lot better. Thank you for posting this.

[MSP]

I guess I'm going to have to install a second hard drive - the installer crashed with errors twice. I have to say, if it's this hard to install Linux for an IT guy the average person has very little chance.

[ThatHideousStrength]

I didn't have any problems installing it.

[MSP]

Originally Posted by djmihow

I didn't have any problems installing it.

Were you dual booting on a drive with an existing Windows XP install? Hmmm, I wonder what I'm doing wrong?

[ThatHideousStrength]

Yes I was. Make sure to not have any other programs partition for you. Just make room on the drive that isn't partition and let Ubuntu set it up.

[Goofus Maximus]

Kubuntu hasn't been a "configure make makeinstall" friendly OS for me. They don't install GCC, G++, make, automake, autoconf, bison, flex, or binutils by default. I never did get doom legacy compiled.

[thadood]

I think that this Ntfs-3g should make its way into the kernel for stock read/write support.

[Eps]

In case you weren't sure what it meant MSP, I'll give a short explanation. It wanted to know what folder to mount your XP partition to so you'd have access to your files from there. In *nix you can mount any device to any folder you want. So there is no A: C: D: E:, etc. You can have /users/Eps/home/floppy_drive or /floppydrive or /media/thisisthefloppydrive. It all depends on your preference. This includes partitions.

Edit: Another detail is the CD drive. If there is no media in the drive, there is nothing to mount so you don't really have a "D:" or whatever like in windows. Everytime you insert a CD you can mount it to a different location. Now that wouldn't make sense so most people would stick to one folder. Most linux distributions will detect when a CD is put into the drive and automount it to a preset folder for you so you don't have to manually mount it everytime.

One of the interesting features is that you can mount a device to a folder that already exists and has files in it. While it is mounted you will only see the mounted device and not the original folder. Also, I *think* you can mount existing folders to other folder so it isn't just limited to devices/partitions or whatever have you.

[Eps]

Originally Posted by Goofus Maximus

Kubuntu hasn't been a "configure make makeinstall" friendly OS for me. They don't install GCC, G++, make, automake, autoconf, bison, flex, or binutils by default. I never did get doom legacy compiled.

I don't think I've come across a distribution yet that was developer friendly from the default install. Fedora was by far the worst by throwing all the C++ libraries onto the disk but not with any kind of relative pathing so you would actually have to go into each file of the libraries and edit the includes. That was about a year and a half ago I last tried it through, things may have changed.

[thadood]

You have to manually tell the installer to install the developer libraries/tools.