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Old 01-30-2008, 12:02 AM Greetings from my EeePC   permalink #1
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My eeePC arrived today. Here are my impressions so far.
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Price Paid: $399 shipped from Amazon (via Jr Computers)
Developer: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
Processor: 900 MHz Intel Celeron-M ULV 353, fan
Memory: 512 MB (upgradeable to 2 GB) DDR2
Storage: 4GB SSD / optional upgrades via flash memory
Graphics: Intel UMA 915
Display: 7 inch (diagonal) TFT LCD with LED backlight; 800×480 pixels
Power: 4 cell 5200 mAh battery
Inputs: Keyboard, Touchpad, Camera (0.3 MP), Microphone
Connectivity: 10/100 Mbit Ethernet, 802.11b/g wireless
Expansion: 3 USB 2.0 ports, MMC/SD card reader
Included OS: Xandros (Linux)
The stock Xandros install just felt very lacking and has limited expandability for other programs, so I tried Windows XP using an external optical drive.

Windows XP installed very quickly (under an hour including all the drivers, which install from a single click off the CD).

Then I decided I'd try Linux, so I put Xubuntu for the eeePC (there's a distribution packaged for this gadget), but I ran into plenty of issues. I had issues getting the sound to work, then it couldn't install Flash no matter how many attempts I made following various guides, then I had issues getting Skype to work. I had enough after about 3 hours of screwing with it and went back to XP I'm sad to admit.

OSX sounds nice, but on the eeePC there are currently no drivers for the wifi, ethernet, display (so you don't even get 800x480, you get 640x480), webcam, or mic -- making it totally not worth it.

XP runs damn well with 512 MB since it's all stripped out. I ran all the basic tweaks I know, turned off the background image and special effects, etc. The whole install took a minimal amount of disk space since I downloaded a "performance" edition instead of going straight off my XP Pro CD.

What else so far... The touchpad is tiny, but there's no gripes here. It works fine despite its small size. The resolution doesn't bother me much once I switched Firefox to small icons and hid the bookmarks toolbar. I set the XP taskbar to auto-hide, scoring another 50 or so pixels. I use the browser in full screen mode and prefer alt tabbing to another browser over using tabs (since they take another 40 pixels of vertical space or so).

Youtube videos run fine, even maximized. I haven't tried music but I'm sure it's okay. Skype runs pretty poorly and with video it put the CPU at 100% without any hope of use (at this time). I'll try making more tweaks to it later.

The only real complaint I have is the keyboard which is obviously tiny. I can type pretty fast on it (>80 WPM) if I look down every now and then, but I type almost twice as fast on a full size keyboard. With practice I'm sure I can get my speed to a reasonable rate. The shift key on the right side is tiny which is really annoying, and the backspace key is undersized (larger than the shift key at least). Practice probably makes perfect. I'll have a lot of time to evaluate all of this before I write a formal review.

Here's a pic of the eeePC sitting next to my brother's 15.4" Toshiba. It's amazing how big a "normal" notebook is next to this cute little thing.


Edit (added at 7:34 AM the next morning): I discovered a few cool things since I posted this.

I went to bed around midnight but was so anxious to test some software (like iTunes and open office) that I shamelessly played with the eeePC while laying down before going to sleep.

This notebook is great for using in bed! Since it weighs practically nothing, does not put out a ton of heat, and can be rotated and moved around at will without regard for its solid state drive, it's the perfect bed-side companion. I discovered last night that you can rotate the screen from landscape to portrait using the CTRL-ALT up/down/left/right keys.

Once you find a document you're interested in (I set my homepage to Google Reader), you can rotate the screen 90 degrees and read it like you're holding a book. The only downside is that the touchpad and arrow keys don't also "rotate", so your "left" becomes "down", and so-on. You can get used to it though.

It also worked great this morning. I rolled over trying to go back to sleep around 6 AM, but had too much on my mind. In the past when this happens I'd get out of bed and start writing, either on paper or on my desktop. This time I reached over and grabbed the eeePC, which despite having nearly 30% battery life remaining at this point, was sufficient to let me squeeze out a few pages of writing before I finally decided to wake up.

BTW, I tend to ignore the shift-key and apostrophes, at least at night, when typing on the eeePC. They are both way too hard to find at this point and I find that I make too many typos. Thankfully, OpenOffice Writer fixes all my major errors on the fly producing some nice coherent text.

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Oh and I should've mentioned... it's obviously very lightweight, has good battery life so far from what I've seen (probably about 4 hours on a full charge) and is typical of Asus quality -- it's a top notch product for build quality and materials. Also the included software is excellent and the documentation/box/cover are all nice.
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Sweet, I'm looking forward to the formal review.


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Old 01-30-2008, 11:26 AM   permalink #4
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the "bed-factor", is what i like to call it, the defining awesomeness of that little bugger. I cant blame you for wanting to stay up to play with it, lol i know i would too. This is a reason why im interested in this too.

holy shit that thing is smaller than i thought! next to a 15.4" lappy too!! gah!
how is the display again? i mean, is it nice or does it feel like a late 90's laptop lcd?

edit: and you also mention it folding over to being "book like", how do you think software like comic book reader would be like on it?? or any book reader app? flipping pages, etc..

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hmmm interesting gonna have to look at those to see what they are exactly. Heard of them but that was about it.





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Very cool. I've already pulled up the Asus website, pointed, and said to my daughter "If you need a laptop for school this is what you're getting..." I'd love to have one just to dick around with.

What size flash drive did you get? Sorry if you said and I missed it.

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the "bed-factor", is what i like to call it, the defining awesomeness of that little bugger. I cant blame you for wanting to stay up to play with it, lol i know i would too. This is a reason why im interested in this too.

holy shit that thing is smaller than i thought! next to a 15.4" lappy too!! gah!
how is the display again? i mean, is it nice or does it feel like a late 90's laptop lcd?
It's very high quality. It's right up there with my Dell 20" widescreens (fpw2005).

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edit: and you also mention it folding over to being "book like", how do you think software like comic book reader would be like on it?? or any book reader app? flipping pages, etc..
I'm sure it'd be better for this than any other notebook that's larger. It's so skinny that if you hold it in "book mode", it's about as thick as a book. It's pretty close in weight, too. I mean, it's a lot smaller than a typical bible or something.

It's pretty easy to reach random keys for scrolling or flipping pages like this, too. I imagine if you had software made for this purpose (maybe a PDF reader?) it'd be ideal.
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Very cool. I've already pulled up the Asus website, pointed, and said "If you need a laptop for school this is what you're getting..." I'd love to have one just to dick around with.

What size flash drive did you get? Sorry if you said and I missed it.
It's got the 4 GB SSD. After Windows XP "Performance Edition", Open Office, Firefox, Skype, Trillian, iTunes, DIVX support, Flash, and a few other critical applications it's still got 2 GB free -- plenty for now I'd say.
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sweet! I'm strongly considering getting one, if for nothing else so that I can surf the net well I poo!

I'd like to check one out in person though, I'm still a little concerned with the size of it. also I can pick up a pretty basic Dell for around 500 and I currently don't own a laptop whatsoever
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:16 PM   permalink #10
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I gave the eeePC the cafe test today, complete with my new Tweak3D shirt.

I have never sat at a public establishment and used wifi with a notebook of my own before, so I was interested to see how it'd go.

I ordered some veggie Panini sandwich thing, and while I waited for 10 minutes or so I was surfing Tweak3D. I made a number of replies to the forums during that time, did some IM chatting, and read through some of my news feeds.

I had two random people approach me to talk about it. One was a middle-aged woman who carries around a 15.4" everywhere and was saying how she'd love it so much. Everyone is very surprised by the price when I tell them it was only $400. They are also pretty surprised when I show them it has Windows XP running on it.

An older man came up and started talking tech. His son worked on Xandros, yet he didn't know this thing shipped with it. We talked about random tech stuff and I showed him how RSS feeds worked and how they could be read in Google Reader.

The battery life "in the real world" seems to be about 3-hours of steady use. Since I had shut it down and carried it around a bit, hibernated a few times, etc., I figure this isn't too bad. I imagine you could stretch out to the mid-3 hour range or even longer if you kept the brightness low or weren't pushing it hard enough to keep the CPU fan active.

I don't mind the low resolution at all using the mini-icons in Firefox, hiding the status bar, and trying to keep tabs to a minimum. The keyboard is not bad at all for my small hands. I admit I skip some apostrophes and capital letters.

Here's my desktop background on it:


I'll try and and snag some better photos and maybe desktop screenshots tomorrow.
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I've got to say. Thats pretty sweet. $400 isn't bad considering what you are getting. That thing is PERFECT for college student. Hell, I'd be interested in something like that. For basic stuff, that's great. Have you tested anything like Photoshop or Dreamweaver? I'd love to work on website stuff on the go with something that small.

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thats pretty nice



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Here are some steps for installing gOS if you are interested.

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whats the diff between 2g, 4g, and 4g surf?
and you have to buy a usb cd drive if you wanna install software or an OS?

and this guy pretty much stuffed everything you can think of into his eeepc
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whats the diff between 2g, 4g, and 4g surf?
and you have to buy a usb cd drive if you wanna install software or an OS?
The 4g surf has no webcam and I think a smaller battery.
The 2g has a 2GB SSD instead of 4GB.
The 4g is the one I bought. It has all the bells and whistles and the 5200maH battery.

You can install an OS with a USB flash drive but it's a bit more work. Your best bet is definitely an external optical drive. I installed Windows in under an hour using one. I borrowed one from someone on Craigslist, but you could rig up your own enclosure for pretty cheap.
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how about installing an os over network, like a network install?? i never got around to trying this with linux

the more im reading about this. this can be a perfect in car pc. especially since you said it can be flipped and closed like a book. If this modder guy puts together a tutorial on applying a touchscreen that would REALLY tickly my fancy to buy one. Im already close to getting one (4G now that you mention)

i could build a eepc cradle stand in the car, use the eepc flipped over and touchscreened for music, gps, and whatever.. then when im done, just take it out and keep it with me.

also, i read something about it having wimax built in??

EDIT: how do you think this little bugger can handle cold and heat, winter/summer in a car?

i could really enjoy internet tethering the eepc with my phone too

EDIT2: talk to me about the supposed $40 XP that microsoft is offereing for it.. how does this offer/buy/install work?? You pay $40 for a serial or something and use an official xp cd?

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how about installing an os over network, like a network install?? i never got around to trying this with linux
I guess it'd be the same pretty much as doing this with any notebook. I had an optical drive so I didn't bother researching this.

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the more im reading about this. this can be a perfect in car pc. especially since you said it can be flipped and closed like a book. If this modder guy puts together a tutorial on applying a touchscreen that would REALLY tickly my fancy to buy one. Im already close to getting one (4G now that you mention)

i could build a eepc cradle stand in the car, use the eepc flipped over and touchscreened for music, gps, and whatever.. then when im done, just take it out and keep it with me.
Yeah, that's probably going to be a big application for this micro-computers. It would be great for a car, both for its durability and size. I imagine if you were to have a mounting system for it you could easily pull it out and use it as your notebook when you don't want to leave it there...

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EDIT: how do you think this little bugger can handle cold and heat, winter/summer in a car?

i could really enjoy internet tethering the eepc with my phone too
It doesn't support WiMax. It has Wifi but that's about the extent of its mobile capabilities currently.

I'm sure it would handle heat and cold just fine. I wouldn't leave it in the interior on a 110 degree day, but I wouldn't attempt that with any LCD. It'd be fine probably, but I could check the manual to see its recommended operating temperatures for the screen.
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alrighty.. has anyone managed to get a stripped vista installed on it? out of curiosity, lol

man, i can imagine, a nice dual boot of a carpc UI, and windows or linux.. that would be ultimate.
and now that its been about a week, is it worth the money to you, have you been using it like you thought, or is there any quirks youre noticing?

EDIT: quick google search, someones already done a touchscreen mod
jkkmobile: Asus Eee Pc with touch screen

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