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Old 08-14-2005, 11:24 AM Connect Two Routers Together   permalink #1
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It's been a long time since I've come back to this site. Kind of need some newbish help.

I recently got my hands on a D-Link DI-524 wireless router. My home network currently uses a D-Link DI-704P router (it has the print server). I sort of like the functionality of the print server on the old router so I was thinking of just adding the wireless router to the existing network to give my network the wireless capabilities.

So from the wired router (let's call it A) I connected an ethernet cable from one of the LAN ports to a LAN port on the wireless router (call it B). On router A I set the DHCP pool range to be from 100 to 200 (the network is 192.68.0.xxx).

On router B, I disabled DHCP and gave it a LAN IP address of 192.68.0.233 so that it would appear as the same network.

To that point, it does not work. The only area I'm sort of sketchy about is what to do with the WAN settings. I was thinking of maybe using an arbitrary static WAN IP address and then assigning the gateway as router A, but I'm not too clear on that much. D-Link routers don't have a router/gateway mode I can switch between like on a Linksys router.

Any help would be appreciated. Please don't just tell me to get a switch or something. I know this setup is possible and I don't think I'm too far off from making it work. Thanks.
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On the wireless router, could you not setup the DHCP and the IP of the router to a whole different setup? Like 192.168.1.1? That way, it receives a DHCP address from your wired router?

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Old 08-14-2005, 12:38 PM   permalink #3
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I'm not too clear on how that works, probably just my lack of knowledge in the field.

As a fluke, I left DHCP enabled on the wireless router, and it appears the address pool is set the same as the wired router's. I set a static WAN IP address the same as the LAN IP address of the router and set the gateway to the address of the wired router. I can now access the Internet through the wireless router (I'm using a computer connected to the wireless router to post this). It's not a wireless connection, right now this computer is connect by ethernet cable. I can't test the wireless capability until I get my hands on my laptop.

The Internet is unstable though, so I think there is something wrong with this setup. I wouldn't be able to explain my justification for this either, as I said it was a fluke.

EDIT: I just turned DHCP off on the wireless router, same unstable Internet, but Internet nonetheless
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:01 PM   permalink #4
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make sure the firewall and dhcp is turned off on the wireless router... let the wired router handle all the ip assigning... There's also a way to have a router turn into a switch/hub, but im not sure how it would work with the wireless aspect
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:08 PM   permalink #5
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Doesn't disabling the DHCP kind of make it into the switch?

Things look okay now besides the fact that my Internet keeps dropping out now. When I just go to view my network connections and have XP repair the connection, things start working again. What do you suppose that means?
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:33 PM   permalink #6
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When you disable DHCP on a router (at least with any Linksys that I've used) you turn off the ability of the router to give an IP address to anyone connecting to the unit.

You can still program computers for a static IP that will work with the router. That's how my wireless works.
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yeah, just like MaesterB said. I haven't figured out a way with these home routers to run them w/o static IPs (unless its the dhcp server)

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Old 08-15-2005, 06:12 PM   permalink #8
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I got it to work, but I swear I tried the set up I have now before and it didn't.

Anyways, here's the scoop.

Router A remained relatively unchanged from what it was in the existing network. It has a DHCP address pool between 192.168.0.3 to 192.168.0.200. The router's IP is 192.168.0.1.

Router B, the wireless router, had its DHCP disabled, it's IP set to 192.168.0.220, the WAN IP set to 192.168.0.2, and it's gateway as 192.168.0.1. These were set as a static WAN address.

Router B connects to Router A via the LAN ports (nothing going into the WAN port on Router B).

And voila, working network, working wireless add-on. The connection drops I was describing before also went away. Perhaps it had something to do with reconfiguring my old router, or tearing the whole thing down. Guess I'll never know for sure.

Anyways, thanks for the input guys. Maybe I'll start frequenting this site again
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:38 PM   permalink #9
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yeah, just like MaesterB said. I haven't figured out a way with these home routers to run them w/o static IPs (unless its the dhcp server)
I don't understand that statment fully. I have my linksys router running without a static ip.

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Old 08-16-2005, 06:04 AM   permalink #10
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so..you connected a cable from one of the LAN ports on Router A, to one of the LAN connections on Router B???
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so..you connected a cable from one of the LAN ports on Router A, to one of the LAN connections on Router B???
i think it's in A's lan port
and B's WAN port

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so..you connected a cable from one of the LAN ports on Router A, to one of the LAN connections on Router B???
i think it's in A's lan port
and B's WAN port
That's what I thought, but what does this mean then?

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Router B connects to Router A via the LAN ports (nothing going into the WAN port on Router B).
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so..you connected a cable from one of the LAN ports on Router A, to one of the LAN connections on Router B???
i think it's in A's lan port
and B's WAN port
That's what I thought, but what does this mean then?

Quote:
Router B connects to Router A via the LAN ports (nothing going into the WAN port on Router B).
Oh... yeah. actually what i said contridicts what hes sayin :\ wtfz0rs
edit: what if it was an Uplink? that would work actually.
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Old 08-16-2005, 10:40 PM   permalink #14
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There was no mistype there.

A cable from one of the LAN ports on Router A hooks to a LAN connection on Router B.

If you want proof, tell me how I can. I didn't think it'd be that wild.
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Old 08-17-2005, 01:12 AM   permalink #15
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There was no mistype there.

A cable from one of the LAN ports on Router A hooks to a LAN connection on Router B.

If you want proof, tell me how I can. I didn't think it'd be that wild.
Take a picture of the ports please, labeling... is one of them an uplink port?
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that's nuts -- i would've never thought to do that... well, not with any logical reasoning that is
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:22 AM   permalink #17
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I got my CCNA, I don't know anything about networking.
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You should be able to setup up the wireless as an Access Point. You should be able to disable the routing capabilities.

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