ATI 4870 ownzerzz!

Mince · 06-25-2008, 08:32 AM

Damn... now this is a good card if these benchmarks are true AND half the price of the Nvidia flagship card.

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Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 @ 3.00GHz
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2×1GB OCZ DDR3 1333MHz 9-9-9-26
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1GB GeForce 9800 GX2 - 600/1500/2000mhz
512MB ATI HD 4870 - 800/3400mhz

512MB ATI HD 4870(RV770), 1GB GeForce 9800 GX2: Crysis ve 3DMark 2006 Testleri | BilgiUstam (it's in German?, but just wanted to share the source)

MSP · 06-25-2008, 09:20 AM

That does look impressive. Now they need to come to market with a 4870x2 model and put the spurs to Nvidia. It's been a while since the graphic market was competitive.

jake · 06-25-2008, 09:43 AM

Wow, half the RAM too. It will be nice to see a competitve market again. Was there any mention of noise in the article?

j0k3r · 06-25-2008, 10:07 AM

From what I am seeing, the 4870 is on par with the GTX 260 performance-wise and for quite a bit less money than the 260. Nvidia should probably rethink its pricing. ...or I might buy another 8800GTS, SLI them and match the performance for about a 1/3 of the cost.

Mr. Ali · 06-25-2008, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0k3r

From what I am seeing, the 4870 is on par with the GTX 260 performance-wise and for quite a bit less money than the 260. Nvidia should probably rethink its pricing. ...or I might buy another 8800GTS, SLI them and match the performance for about a 1/3 of the cost.

Are you sure you can match the performance of a 4870 when the 9800 gx2 is essentially 9800gtx's in SLI and you are going to a SLI 8800GTS? I would look at some benchmarks first. Personally I am waiting for the 9800GTX+ to come out and see where they price it (rumored at $230).

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSP

That does look impressive. Now they need to come to market with a 4870x2 model and put the spurs to Nvidia. It's been a while since the graphic market was competitive.

the x2 will release in august sometime.

gB dAvId x · 06-25-2008, 11:04 AM

So I've been kind of out of the loop on graphics cards, is the 8800GTS the top of the line nvidia card?

Mince · 06-25-2008, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jake

Wow, half the RAM too. It will be nice to see a competitve market again. Was there any mention of noise in the article?

Not this one (I think), but the link below provides reviews from various sites regarding heat and noise levels.

ATI Radeon HD 4850 and 4870 reviews

Quote:

The noise level of the 4850 fan is alright, but when the 4870 spins up I tend to glance out the window to make sure a jet isn't just about to fly into the building. It's hugely loud at load, but it doesn't get there fast and it doesn't stay there long. It seems AMD favored cooling things down quick and then returning to quiet running.

j0k3r · 06-25-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Ali

Are you sure you can match the performance of a 4870 when the 9800 gx2 is essentially 9800gtx's in SLI and you are going to a SLI 8800GTS? I would look at some benchmarks first. Personally I am waiting for the 9800GTX+ to come out and see where they price it (rumored at $230).

I was talking about matching the performance of a 9800 gtx, not the 4870. It's moot though, I just ordered a 4870.

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100243L Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Anyone want to buy an 8800GTS? This is the card you will be buying:

Newegg.com - BFG Tech BFGE88512GTSE GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

It's only a couple months old and has a lifetime warranty. I'll probably try and sell it to someone a little less tech savvy though so I can get some of my investment back.

Mr. Ali · 06-25-2008, 07:42 PM

^^^ Congratulations, let us know what the sound/heat output is like.

Man, this card is almost too good to be true. I just called a friend that was waiting to buy the 9800gtx+ to consider this one since it will probably blow it out of the water.

MaesterB · 06-25-2008, 07:53 PM

Hmmm...if I was upgrading sometime soon, I might buy a 4850.

ivanolo · 06-25-2008, 08:41 PM

I'll finally be able to get a Radeon HD 3850 for peanuts!

Mince · 06-25-2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0k3r

I was talking about matching the performance of a 9800 gtx, not the 4870. It's moot though, I just ordered a 4870.

Damn Joker... You wasted no time!

Please update us with pics and review as soon as you get it!

Chris · 06-25-2008, 08:55 PM

Wow, grats j0k3r.. please let us know how it runs.. maybe even post some j0k3rfied benchmarks

Man that card sounds fucking sweeeeeet.

Torx · 06-26-2008, 03:15 AM

whats gonna be their next highest performance card after the 4870?

MSP · 06-28-2008, 10:35 AM

Well, you have to do a full review once you get that bad boy installed.

demonizeZ · 06-28-2008, 11:35 AM

two biggest problems with ati is 1: they get dam hot and 2: they have very poor linux support

. not sure yet if this card will have better support in linux but i hope they make specific linux driver for this card instead of some generic crap. because generic drivers just dont bring best out of high end cards.

Its really good to see competition finally hope fully it will bring down the price for other high end Nvidia GFXs.

Mr. Ali · 06-28-2008, 11:36 AM

no one uses linux for games so its really not a problem for 99.99% of people

EDIT: 99.99999999% actually.

demonizeZ · 06-28-2008, 11:54 AM

lol hey now speak for your self

. almost every one i know we use linux for gaming too :P. and my team is not just USA base it involve ppl from alot of other nations. There are lots of very smart ppl working with linux and constantly evolving the OS to new heights. Put it in general terms any one with free mind and question every thing and in computers use linux mostly... offcourse and wiling to constantly learn new things in computer line.

here is one of the list Cedega.com - Home of TransGaming's Cedega - Play Windows games on Linux for linux supported games.

Wedge_ · 06-28-2008, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonizeZ

There are lots of very smart ppl working with linux and constantly evolving the OS to new heights. Put it in general terms any one with free mind and question every thing and in computers use linux mostly... offcourse and wiling to constantly learn new things in computer line. .

Oh come on. Stop going on about Linux in every single post you make. I use Linux and Windows. They both have their uses. Rambling on about how great Linux is all the time will just annoy people.

Juballharshaw · 06-28-2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonizeZ

lol hey now speak for your self

. almost every one i know we use linux for gaming too :P. and my team is not just USA base it involve ppl from alot of other nations. There are lots of very smart ppl working with linux and constantly evolving the OS to new heights. Put it in general terms any one with free mind and question every thing and in computers use linux mostly... offcourse and wiling to constantly learn new things in computer line.

here is one of the list Cedega.com - Home of TransGaming's Cedega - Play Windows games on Linux for linux supported games.

You should have called them sheeple and ethnocentric.

WOOPS ALREADY DID.

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Put it in general terms any one with free mind and question every thing

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and my team is not just USA base it involve ppl from alot of other nations.

demonizeZ · 06-28-2008, 09:15 PM

this is on assumption that those two word are applied some how on those two quote. if not disregard what i just wrote on bottom

hmmmm not sure if you know the meaning of those word but Sheeple and free mind and question every thing dont go together. look in wiki or dictionary. as for
Ethnocentric hmmm again not sure if you know the meaing but when you are dealing with ppl form diff religion and nations and working with em the last thing you feel or think is that word.

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MSP Globe Trekker Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Posts: 16,497 (#1) Thanked 7x in 7 posts x74	That does look impressive. Now they need to come to market with a 4870x2 model and put the spurs to Nvidia. It's been a while since the graphic market was competitive.

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j0k3r El Chupacabra Jan 2005 Last Seen: 07-10-2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,013 (#45) Thanked 16x in 9 posts x50	From what I am seeing, the 4870 is on par with the GTX 260 performance-wise and for quite a bit less money than the 260. Nvidia should probably rethink its pricing. ...or I might buy another 8800GTS, SLI them and match the performance for about a 1/3 of the cost.

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Mr. Ali Lord Of Porn Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: CA, USA Posts: 3,424 (#22) Thanked 3x in 3 posts x32	^^^ Congratulations, let us know what the sound/heat output is like. Man, this card is almost too good to be true. I just called a friend that was waiting to buy the 9800gtx+ to consider this one since it will probably blow it out of the water.

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MaesterB King of the Wicker People Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: Frozen North Posts: 2,070 (#44) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x4	Hmmm...if I was upgrading sometime soon, I might buy a 4850.
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ivanolo Cheap Bastard Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 2,888 (#28) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x0	I'll finally be able to get a Radeon HD 3850 for peanuts!
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Chris Raptor Jesus Apr 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,428 (#21) Thanked 1x in one post x6	Wow, grats j0k3r.. please let us know how it runs.. maybe even post some j0k3rfied benchmarks Man that card sounds fucking sweeeeeet.

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Torx Fecal Funsies! Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: Memphis Posts: 7,466 (#3) Thanked 8x in 6 posts x10	whats gonna be their next highest performance card after the 4870?

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demonizeZ Senior Member Apr 2008 Last Seen: Today Posts: 210 (#142) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x10	two biggest problems with ati is 1: they get dam hot and 2: they have very poor linux support . not sure yet if this card will have better support in linux but i hope they make specific linux driver for this card instead of some generic crap. because generic drivers just dont bring best out of high end cards. Its really good to see competition finally hope fully it will bring down the price for other high end Nvidia GFXs.
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Mr. Ali Lord Of Porn Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: CA, USA Posts: 3,424 (#22) Thanked 3x in 3 posts x32	no one uses linux for games so its really not a problem for 99.99% of people EDIT: 99.99999999% actually.

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demonizeZ Senior Member Apr 2008 Last Seen: Today Posts: 210 (#142) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x10	lol hey now speak for your self . almost every one i know we use linux for gaming too :P. and my team is not just USA base it involve ppl from alot of other nations. There are lots of very smart ppl working with linux and constantly evolving the OS to new heights. Put it in general terms any one with free mind and question every thing and in computers use linux mostly... offcourse and wiling to constantly learn new things in computer line. here is one of the list Cedega.com - Home of TransGaming's Cedega - Play Windows games on Linux for linux supported games. Last edited by demonizeZ; 06-28-2008 at 12:03 PM.

06-28-2008, 09:15 PM	permalink #21
demonizeZ Senior Member Apr 2008 Last Seen: Today Posts: 210 (#142) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x10	this is on assumption that those two word are applied some how on those two quote. if not disregard what i just wrote on bottom hmmmm not sure if you know the meaning of those word but Sheeple and free mind and question every thing dont go together. look in wiki or dictionary. as for Ethnocentric hmmm again not sure if you know the meaing but when you are dealing with ppl form diff religion and nations and working with em the last thing you feel or think is that word.

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