Pentagon finising up "First Strike" nuclear plan..

MSP · 09-13-2005, 04:30 PM

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10345189

Who didn't see this coming?

MaesterB · 09-13-2005, 04:35 PM

Hahahaha...that's hilarious.

You know...if this was all approved before the whole "war on terrorism", and all that amazing intel on the WMDs in Iraq, America wouldn't have had to sacrifice so many soldiers.

/sarcasm

~~CHEDaddy~~ · 09-13-2005, 04:39 PM

The only "preemption" using nukes will be during an active and ongoing exchange of WMD that can be halted with nukes. The standard for preemption is too high otherwise, nothing has changed.

And nuclear retaliation for terrorists/rouge nations is off the table, as previously discussed.

Scrubbin_Bubbles · 09-13-2005, 05:17 PM

I find it funny this came out now after Iran said if they are brought in front of the UN about WMDS we would face serious consequences

MSP · 09-13-2005, 05:38 PM

I guarantee that this will disuade some rogue nations from turning the other cheek when terror groups are operating on their soil. I'd love to see Mogadishu or Tehran under the cloud...

Actually that would be awful.

mistawiskas · 09-13-2005, 06:07 PM

This is a step that is horendously scarey. Having lived through the nuclear threat of the 50's and 60's.........well, it's a mandate that was always there, but now it's in writing.

GirlsRidePonies · 09-13-2005, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistawiskas

This is a step that is horendously scarey. Having lived through the nuclear threat of the 50's and 60's.........well, it's a mandate that was always there, but now it's in writing.

It's always loomed, and always will.

No biggie. It'd be a fast way to go, assuming you were within 20 miles of a blast zone.

And, it'd be a cool way to die.

Not many people can say that they were fucking NUKED when they get to the pearly gates... well... excluding the Japanese... but that's it.

mistawiskas · 09-13-2005, 07:07 PM

That and it's also a dandy way to nullify large tracts of realestate for many generations to come.

Bundini · 09-13-2005, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlsRidePonies

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistawiskas

This is a step that is horendously scarey. Having lived through the nuclear threat of the 50's and 60's.........well, it's a mandate that was always there, but now it's in writing.

It's always loomed, and always will.

No biggie. It'd be a fast way to go, assuming you were within 20 miles of a blast zone.

And, it'd be a cool way to die.

Not many people can say that they were fucking NUKED when they get to the pearly gates... well... excluding the Japanese... but that's it.

Well, I don't think you have to say anything when you get to the Pearly Gates.

St. Peter: Name?
You: John Smith.
*St. Peter checks book
St. Peter: Whoa! You were in that nuclear holocaust!
You: Yeah, I know!
St. Peter: Dude! We all watched that on the news! That was nuts!
You: Yeah, I KNOW!

I'd like to thank the Academy.

Nebor · 09-13-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MSP

I guarantee that this will disuade some rogue nations from turning the other cheek when terror groups are operating on their soil. I'd love to see Mogadishu or Tehran under the cloud...

Actually that would be awful.

The people of Somalia are victims, dominated by warlords being manipulated by the outside world. Their story is heart wrenching. More people die by genocide there every year that we lose to all the Katrinas and 9/11s combined.

Nebor · 09-13-2005, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundini

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlsRidePonies

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistawiskas

This is a step that is horendously scarey. Having lived through the nuclear threat of the 50's and 60's.........well, it's a mandate that was always there, but now it's in writing.

It's always loomed, and always will.

No biggie. It'd be a fast way to go, assuming you were within 20 miles of a blast zone.

And, it'd be a cool way to die.

Not many people can say that they were fucking NUKED when they get to the pearly gates... well... excluding the Japanese... but that's it.

Well, I don't think you have to say anything when you get to the Pearly Gates.

St. Peter: Name?
You: John Smith.
*St. Peter checks book
St. Peter: Whoa! You were in that nuclear holocaust!
You: Yeah, I know!
St. Peter: Dude! We all watched that on the news! That was nuts!
You: Yeah, I KNOW!

I'd like to thank the Academy.

Actually, in the event of a nuclear holocaust, the crowds at the gate would be so large that they'd have to herd them into the Heavendome until they were able to help them all.

ivwshane · 09-13-2005, 08:07 PM

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t claims that some 30 nations have WMD programmes -- not to mention terrorists, or "non-state actors" as they are described, acting either independently or under the sponsorship of a state opposed to the US.

30 nations have wmd's? These aren't the same type of wmd's iraq had are they

bbsmitz · 09-13-2005, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundini

Quote:

Originally Posted by GirlsRidePonies

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistawiskas

This is a step that is horendously scarey. Having lived through the nuclear threat of the 50's and 60's.........well, it's a mandate that was always there, but now it's in writing.

It's always loomed, and always will.

No biggie. It'd be a fast way to go, assuming you were within 20 miles of a blast zone.

And, it'd be a cool way to die.

Not many people can say that they were fucking NUKED when they get to the pearly gates... well... excluding the Japanese... but that's it.

Well, I don't think you have to say anything when you get to the Pearly Gates.

St. Peter: Name?
You: John Smith.
*St. Peter checks book
St. Peter: Whoa! You were in that nuclear holocaust!
You: Yeah, I know!
St. Peter: Dude! We all watched that on the news! That was nuts!
You: Yeah, I KNOW!

I'd like to thank the Academy.

Actually, in the event of a nuclear holocaust, the crowds at the gate would be so large that they'd have to herd them into the Heavendome until they were able to help them all.

Heaven probably has better queue control than that.

hans5849 · 09-13-2005, 10:09 PM

Thank god they didn't have this when we went to war with Iraq

ATIzed · 09-14-2005, 09:37 PM

Ahhh, the evil US is at it again. Seriously, eliminate Israel and the US and the world would be at total peace. Pfft. We just need a globally published list of nations that we will absolutely launch a nuclear strike against should we be attacked with nuclear weapons ourselves. For instance, if Iran were to hit the US with a nuclear weapon, then we would fire nuclear weapons at Moscow perhaps. Likewise Japan could create such a list that would name China as the recipient of nuclear weapons should North Korea hit Japan with a nuke. Perhaps then, the higher-ups in both of those countries might work a bit harder to keep their despot flunkies in line.

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~~CHEDaddy~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,004 (#91 ) My photos: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	The only "preemption" using nukes will be during an active and ongoing exchange of WMD that can be halted with nukes. The standard for preemption is too high otherwise, nothing has changed. And nuclear retaliation for terrorists/rouge nations is off the table, as previously discussed.

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MSP Globe Trekker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,854 (#1 ) My photos: 143 Thanked 10x in 10 posts	I guarantee that this will disuade some rogue nations from turning the other cheek when terror groups are operating on their soil. I'd love to see Mogadishu or Tehran under the cloud... Actually that would be awful.

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mistawiskas outside the box! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 14,992 (#2 ) My photos: 358 Thanked 9x in 9 posts	That and it's also a dandy way to nullify large tracts of realestate for many generations to come.
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ATIzed Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 608 (#112 ) My photos: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Ahhh, the evil US is at it again. Seriously, eliminate Israel and the US and the world would be at total peace. Pfft. We just need a globally published list of nations that we will absolutely launch a nuclear strike against should we be attacked with nuclear weapons ourselves. For instance, if Iran were to hit the US with a nuclear weapon, then we would fire nuclear weapons at Moscow perhaps. Likewise Japan could create such a list that would name China as the recipient of nuclear weapons should North Korea hit Japan with a nuke. Perhaps then, the higher-ups in both of those countries might work a bit harder to keep their despot flunkies in line.

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