McCain VP pick - his strategists are geniuses. - Page 2

Chris · 08-29-2008, 01:10 PM

Obama wins. Period.

Worst decision ever McCain, sorry.

MSP · 08-29-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Obama wins. Period.

Worst decision ever McCain, sorry.

Quoted to make fun of you in November also.

Mr. Ali · 08-29-2008, 01:22 PM

The VP debates are sure going to be interesting.

SoulAssassin · 08-29-2008, 01:24 PM

So Obama picks a VP who blasted his experience, McCain blasts Obama for no experience then picks a VP who has little experience...holy fuck this shit is retarded.

Miller · 08-29-2008, 01:53 PM

I know some of you thought that this may steal hillary voters, but it may also push away mccain votes. I wouldnt want an unexperienced woman next in line, especially when the top dog is like 78 years old.

Juballharshaw · 08-29-2008, 02:17 PM

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Speaking of beating it, let me be the first to say I'd hit it!

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You are behind the times, I said it when she became gov

Gentlemen. Let's not fight: VPilf.com

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I don't know much about Palin, but she doesn't look/sound like she'd handle that too well. She reminds me of Peggy Hill (King of the Hill) or something, not an authority figure like Hillary.

'Cept Peggy Hill wasn't some sort of hot forbidden fruit.

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I wonder how all of the ex-Hillary supporters will respond. Sure, their instinct might be to support another woman because she's a woman, but doesn't she have different stances than Clinton on almost every issue? Maybe they'll just mute their TVs when Clinton comes on the TV telling them to vote for Obama.

Those who were voting for her because she's a woman will jump to McCain. I would hope those who pay attention to the issues will stay in Obama's camp. Palin is crazy conservative up to and including teaching creationism in school. She's definitely not the same woman that Hillary is.

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Edit - I wonder if Biden's aggressive debating will be a turn-off for supporters. He'll look like a bully if Palin can't defend herself or positions.

I hope not. I hope Biden makes her look foolish.

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Originally Posted by Miller

I know some of you thought that this may steal hillary voters, but it may also push away mccain votes. I wouldnt want an unexperienced woman next in line, especially when the top dog is like 78 years old.

If heaven forbid Obama gets knocked off I have faith in Biden being able to run the country. However, when McCain dies in office, I have my doubts about a first term governor from a low population state that practically lives off the federal government's teat.

MSP · 08-29-2008, 02:20 PM

Let's be honest here - nobody on either ticket has ever had experience being the president of the United States. All have had experience in government and management, and McCain and Biden have extensive foreign affairs experience. So in the experience collumn I would actually give the nob to McCain/Palin as she's been the governor of a state and not just a freshman senator. Being governor requires leadership and management skills, a senator just has to be popular and show up to vote on things once in a while. EDIT: Unless of course the senator is head of an important committee, which Obama wasn't.

hans5849 · 08-29-2008, 02:24 PM

She's hot.

Juballharshaw · 08-29-2008, 02:25 PM

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Edit - I wonder if Biden's aggressive debating will be a turn-off for supporters. He'll look like a bully if Palin can't defend herself or positions.

More on this from Ed Rollins:

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She is blunt, outspoken and charming. And don't assume she can't stand toe-to-toe with Joe Biden. She is a great debater. And she was runner-up for the Miss Alaska title, won Miss Congeniality in that contest, and plays the flute.

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Originally Posted by MSP

Let's be honest here - nobody on either ticket has ever had experience being the president of the United States. All have had experience in government and management, and McCain and Biden have extensive foreign affairs experience. So in the experience collumn I would actually give the nob to McCain/Palin as she's been the governor of a state and not just a freshman senator. Being governor requires leadership and management skills, a senator just has to be popular and show up to vote on things once in a while. EDIT: Unless of course the senator is head of an important committee, which Obama wasn't.

Really, you're dismissing Obama's experience in shaping policy and pushing reform because he was a freshman senator? Not to mention the fact that she's been a governor for all of a year now and before that was a city council member. I think that Obama's 3 years in the Senate at our Federal seat of power plus his 7 years in the Illinois Senate give him more political experience.

MSP · 08-29-2008, 02:39 PM

Yeah, I forgot about his service in the Illinois senate. So I'll give you that one. Although I would imagine a year as governor of a state is probably worth 4-5 years as a senator. But Obama was a Black Panther and in the Mujahideen so ultimately I think you're right.

Goofus Maximus · 08-29-2008, 02:48 PM

As Jimmy Carter has told folks, the Senate and the White House are worlds of difference, and experience in one doesn't help with the other much, if at all.

Experience if overrated anyway. Herbert Hoover was experienced, and he led us into the great depression, as his experience acted as blinders to keep him from seeing alarming trends (as happens with all bubble situations)

hans5849 · 08-29-2008, 02:55 PM

McCain Taps Gov. Sarah Palin As Presidential Running Mate - WSJ.com

MaesterB · 08-29-2008, 02:55 PM

Well...if McCain gets in, she's definitely impeachment material. "I did not have sexual relations with my VP. I just simply told her to speak in the mic a little more."

MaesterB · 08-29-2008, 02:56 PM

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McCain Taps Gov. Sarah Palin As Presidential Running Mate - WSJ.com

LOL..."taps". I'm sure a lot of newspaper peeps are gonna realize the error of their ways. Or iis it really an error? LOL

ATIzed · 08-29-2008, 04:43 PM

Wow, this is a weird VP pick. Does McCain have Democrat operatives in his campaign making these decisions? This is quite stunning to behold.

ThatHideousStrength · 08-29-2008, 06:16 PM

This is like a god damn tv show with all the plot twists and shit. Gay.

ninefivezero · 08-29-2008, 06:20 PM

While I (and 99% of Americans) know very little (or nothing) about her, what I've heard so far makes her sound like a better Republican than most. Sure she is hardcore social conservative, but it does seem like she has done a fair bit in a rather short period of time cleaning up Alaska politics. Interesting choice.

Juballharshaw · 08-29-2008, 07:32 PM

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While I (and 99% of Americans) know very little (or nothing) about her, what I've heard so far makes her sound like a better Republican than most. Sure she is hardcore social conservative, but it does seem like she has done a fair bit in a rather short period of time cleaning up Alaska politics. Interesting choice.

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City council/Mayor of Wasilla (population 6k).

Almost 2 years of Governor of Alaska (population 600k)

Miss Wasilla (1984- In the pageant, she played the flute and also won Miss Congeniality)

Runner-up Miss Alaska

Currently under investigation for improper dismissal of Safety Commissioner

Evangelical Pro-life member of "Feminists for Life"

Pro-drilling in Alaska

Does not believe in Global-warming theories and objected to listing Polar Bears as endangered species as it would hinder oil and gas development in Alaska.

She's a female Huckabee who had her former brother-in-law fired.

Phant0m51 · 08-29-2008, 08:25 PM

I don't care who he chose as a running mate. It doesn't change the fact that McCain is a blundering idiot that reminds me so much of Bush Jr. that I absolutely hate him.

MSP · 08-29-2008, 08:34 PM

Phant0m51, is there anything specific about his policies that you don't like?

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08-29-2008, 01:10 PM	permanent link to #21
Chris Raptor Jesus Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,687 (#17 ) My photos: 6 Thanked 1x in one post	Obama wins. Period. Worst decision ever McCain, sorry.

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SoulAssassin Vagina Friendly Mayor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 3,425 (#25 ) My photos: 15 Thanked 1x in one post	So Obama picks a VP who blasted his experience, McCain blasts Obama for no experience then picks a VP who has little experience...holy fuck this shit is retarded.

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MSP Globe Trekker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,843 (#1 ) My photos: 143 Thanked 10x in 10 posts	Let's be honest here - nobody on either ticket has ever had experience being the president of the United States. All have had experience in government and management, and McCain and Biden have extensive foreign affairs experience. So in the experience collumn I would actually give the nob to McCain/Palin as she's been the governor of a state and not just a freshman senator. Being governor requires leadership and management skills, a senator just has to be popular and show up to vote on things once in a while. EDIT: Unless of course the senator is head of an important committee, which Obama wasn't.

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MSP Globe Trekker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,843 (#1 ) My photos: 143 Thanked 10x in 10 posts	Yeah, I forgot about his service in the Illinois senate. So I'll give you that one. Although I would imagine a year as governor of a state is probably worth 4-5 years as a senator. But Obama was a Black Panther and in the Mujahideen so ultimately I think you're right.

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ATIzed Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 608 (#112 ) My photos: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Wow, this is a weird VP pick. Does McCain have Democrat operatives in his campaign making these decisions? This is quite stunning to behold.

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ninefivezero infinite resolution Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,385 (#6 ) My photos: 305 Thanked 8x in 7 posts	While I (and 99% of Americans) know very little (or nothing) about her, what I've heard so far makes her sound like a better Republican than most. Sure she is hardcore social conservative, but it does seem like she has done a fair bit in a rather short period of time cleaning up Alaska politics. Interesting choice.
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Phant0m51 From Utah, NOT mormon Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Utah, USA Posts: 1,270 (#75 ) My photos: 19 Thanked 1x in one post	I don't care who he chose as a running mate. It doesn't change the fact that McCain is a blundering idiot that reminds me so much of Bush Jr. that I absolutely hate him.
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