Donnie Darko is a mind #$%&! (likely spoilers)

MSP · 09-25-2005, 06:56 PM

I'm finishing up the director's cut right now, and man this movie is a mind fuck. The whole movie - is Franka real or is Donnie just crazy, who is this Sparrow "death lady" chick, who is Frank, etc. Man, I can't even recall the last time I watched a movie and was this far into it without having it all figured out.

tex · 09-25-2005, 07:07 PM

frank is the kid he kills at the end. i still don't get the sparrow lady.
and "real" is kind of subjective. its as real as you want it to be i guess. I got about 1/2 the movie.
the best part is talking about the smurfs fucking.

basketofkittens · 09-25-2005, 07:16 PM

**** SPOILERS ****

Ok, this is basically what I've been able to gather about the movie through watching it several times (with commentary too), and looking at the website, etc.

When Donnie wakes up on the golf course after the jet engine falls on his house he is in what is called a "tangent universe." When Frank says that the world will end in whatever days, he means that the tangent universe will collapse in theat many days. Through the influence of Gretchen and Frank (they are the instruments of a higher power, presumably God) Donnie will realizes that by him dying from the jet engine falling, he will make the lives of all the people around him better (his mom won't die, Frank won't die, Gretchen won't die, Swayze's character doesn't get discredited, Drew Barrymore's character doesn't get fired, etc.). Donnie is basically presented with a choice: go on living and the universe will be like this. Die and life will be better for everyone else. This is why Donnie repeats the line, "I promise one day everything will be better for you", to a number of people towards the end of the movie, and also why he is laughing right before he gets crushed to death. He is aware of what his decision means and he's happy about bettering all those people's lives. Roberta Sparrow has through some means realized that her purpose in life is to be at that exact spot by her mailbox to influence some course of events. These events being the killing of Gretchen and Frank.

Basically that's what I got off the top of my head. Hopefully it helped...

Scrubbin_Bubbles · 09-25-2005, 07:17 PM

Frank is the devil, Donnie is Christ.

The movie is compared to The Last Temptation Of Christ

However the DC sucks and I would strongly suggest you see the original

basketofkittens · 09-25-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrubbin_Bubbles

Frank is the devil, Donnie is Christ.

The movie is compared to The Last Temptation Of Christ

However the DC sucks and I would strongly suggest you see the original

Wait... what? Frank isn't the devil. He's an instrument of God to influence Donnie (who is not Christ btw).

I know there are interpretations, but that's just plain wrong.

Bundini · 09-25-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tremblay

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubbin_Bubbles

Frank is the devil, Donnie is Christ.

The movie is compared to The Last Temptation Of Christ

However the DC sucks and I would strongly suggest you see the original

Wait... what? Frank isn't the devil. He's an instrument of God to influence Donnie (who is not Christ btw).

I know there are interpretations, but that's just plain wrong.

Exactly.

I agree most with the ideas put forth on this site: http://www.ruinedeye.com/cd/

You should read the Philosophy of Time Travel first. http://www.ruinedeye.com/cd/liture.htm

hans5849 · 09-25-2005, 08:06 PM

am i tripping again?

superman · 09-25-2005, 10:01 PM

the movie owns no need for explanation unless you're a nub

Bundini · 09-25-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by supaman

the movie owns no need for explanation unless you're a nub

^^^Didn't "get" it.

NoseMaster · 09-25-2005, 10:18 PM

I've also heard that it's a remake of the Last Temptation of Christ, all that shit that would have happened if Donnie (christ) didn't die on that day, like he was supposed to.

In reality I think it's just them being vague because anything vague can be overanalyzed until it's considered deep and genius. Good movie, tho.

crowchaser · 09-25-2005, 11:29 PM

if any body is intrested in another mind f*cked movie check out Muholland Dr. (maybe incorrect spelling?)

GirlsRidePonies · 09-26-2005, 02:10 AM

Meh. The movie was too gimmicky for me. I think it tried too hard to be deep.

Bundini · 09-26-2005, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crowchaser

if any body is intrested in another mind f*cked movie check out Muholland Dr. (maybe incorrect spelling?)

Mulholland Drive.

And that movie is a flaming pile of dog feces. It was so pretentious and so pointless.

Pope John · 09-26-2005, 08:18 AM

tremblay, What about Donnie's mom, and sister? The Engine comes off of their plane from the future. Their death is inescapable it would seem.

basketofkittens · 09-26-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pope John

tremblay, What about Donnie's mom, and sister? The Engine comes off of their plane from the future. Their death is inescapable it would seem.

No. First of all, the engine is from the plane in the tangent universe, not the "real" universe. And secondly, Donnie's mom would never have been on the plane if Swayze's character hadn't been revealed as a pervert. I honestly can't speak for Donnie's sister. It's been too long since I saw the movie for me to recall the details around the whole Sparkle Motion thing.

hans5849 · 09-26-2005, 09:53 AM

i had a few websites relating to this.

Nothing. · 09-26-2005, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pope John

tremblay, What about Donnie's mom, and sister? The Engine comes off of their plane from the future. Their death is inescapable it would seem.

woah. I never thought about that. It is from their plane coming back. That is crazy.

This movie is great. But, I don't understand how Frank was that kid, what did that kid have anything to do about the movie? I don't get how he's dressed up as frank for halloween... Just a coincidence? I know they were the same person (because his eye was missing [that is where Donnie shot him at the end]) but why?

basketofkittens · 09-26-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nothing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pope John

tremblay, What about Donnie's mom, and sister? The Engine comes off of their plane from the future. Their death is inescapable it would seem.

woah. I never thought about that. It is from their plane coming back. That is crazy.

This movie is great. But, I don't understand how Frank was that kid, what did that kid have anything to do about the movie? I don't get how he's dressed up as frank for halloween... Just a coincidence? I know they were the same person (because his eye was missing [that is where Donnie shot him at the end]) but why?

Frank was one of the "manipulated dead" (as was Gretchen). They were the two people that died in the tangent universe, and I guess that's what made them the instruments of Donnie's manipulation. My best guess is that he's dressed as the bunny because that's how he was dressed when he died (which also makes sense because of his eye).

Chris · 09-27-2005, 10:33 AM

This movie's terribly overrated.. It's to please the artsy fartsy emo kids, IMO.

Wasn't even that good.

-Chris

GirlsRidePonies · 09-27-2005, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

This movie's terribly overrated.. It's to please the artsy fartsy emo kids, IMO.

Wasn't even that good.

-Chris

And with this, I'm done shitting on this thread.

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MSP Globe Trekker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,629 (#1 ) My photos: 126 Thanked 10x in 10 posts	I'm finishing up the director's cut right now, and man this movie is a mind fuck. The whole movie - is Franka real or is Donnie just crazy, who is this Sparrow "death lady" chick, who is Frank, etc. Man, I can't even recall the last time I watched a movie and was this far into it without having it all figured out.

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tex jive turkey Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: ATX Posts: 2,253 (#43 ) My photos: 8 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	frank is the kid he kills at the end. i still don't get the sparrow lady. and "real" is kind of subjective. its as real as you want it to be i guess. I got about 1/2 the movie. the best part is talking about the smurfs fucking.

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basketofkittens Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,301 (#73 ) My photos: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	** SPOILERS ** Ok, this is basically what I've been able to gather about the movie through watching it several times (with commentary too), and looking at the website, etc. When Donnie wakes up on the golf course after the jet engine falls on his house he is in what is called a "tangent universe." When Frank says that the world will end in whatever days, he means that the tangent universe will collapse in theat many days. Through the influence of Gretchen and Frank (they are the instruments of a higher power, presumably God) Donnie will realizes that by him dying from the jet engine falling, he will make the lives of all the people around him better (his mom won't die, Frank won't die, Gretchen won't die, Swayze's character doesn't get discredited, Drew Barrymore's character doesn't get fired, etc.). Donnie is basically presented with a choice: go on living and the universe will be like this. Die and life will be better for everyone else. This is why Donnie repeats the line, "I promise one day everything will be better for you", to a number of people towards the end of the movie, and also why he is laughing right before he gets crushed to death. He is aware of what his decision means and he's happy about bettering all those people's lives. Roberta Sparrow has through some means realized that her purpose in life is to be at that exact spot by her mailbox to influence some course of events. These events being the killing of Gretchen and Frank. Basically that's what I got off the top of my head. Hopefully it helped...

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