America is about to go to sh!t - Page 2

SoulAssassin · 07-22-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eavanr

Wow, could there be any link to his protest against global warming and being paid by Exxon Mobil?

Naaaaaaaaaah

Jackalope · 07-22-2006, 12:49 PM

so anyone else here a libertarian?

ivwshane · 07-22-2006, 04:54 PM

I try not to associate myself with any party, that allows me to keep my views open and my choices unbiased.

If I had to choose I would probably pick the republican party if they actually acted on what their party supposedly stands for but as it stands now, I would have to side with the democrats.

msgwtco · 07-22-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Eavanr

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!

BULLSHIT INDICATOR IS GOING OFF THE SCALE!

msgwtco

Be very aware of what you read. That site is owned by Steve Milloy. What do we know about Steve Milloy?

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Steven Milloy is currently a columnist for Fox News. He is also a paid advocate for Phillip Morris[1], and ExxonMobil[2]. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute.

Milloy runs the website Junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what he alleges to be false claims regarding global warming, DDT, environmental radicalism and ozone depletion among other topics.[3] His other website, CSRWatch.com, is focused around attacking the corporate social responsibility movement. He is also head of the Free Enterprise Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with tobacco executive Tom Borelli, who is listed as the secretary of the Advancement of Sound Science Center, a nonprofit Milloy operates from his home in Potomac, Maryland .

Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from the Johns Hopkins University, a Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctorate from the University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown University Law Center.[4]

In January 2006, Paul D. Thacker reported in The New Republic that Milloy has received thousands of dollars in payments from the Phillip Morris company since the early nineties, and that NGOs controlled by Milloy have received large payments from ExxonMobil. A spokesperson for Fox News stated, "Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any affiliation he had should have been disclosed." The payments are seen as another example of "pundit payola."

Wow, could there be any link to his protest against global warming and being paid by Exxon Mobil?

Good point. One must be careful on where they get their information and it is possible this Steve Milloy is an unreliable source of information.

mistawiskas · 07-22-2006, 07:03 PM

Nothing special about the hot weather this summer, if anything, we haven't had as much as we usuall do. Last winter, on the other hand, was alot wetter than a usual winter here. And EvanR, I don't believe much of anything I read or hear or see on the news or in media. Those sources are too easily manipulated and are. Truth doesn't need lies to prop it up, so the truth is all that's left in the end after the lies collapse. Most all news systems are more-or-less editorials nowadays.

ivwshane · 07-29-2006, 10:33 AM

I haven't found any sources for this yet and if he wasn't from california I'd be more excited (because we all know where a majority of californians stand).

http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archi...lican_says.htm

ivwshane · 07-29-2006, 11:16 AM

GOP makes conditions on wage increase.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060728/...o/minimum_wage

I'm sure this has been going on forever and I'm sure both parties have done this at one time or another but it's still a dirty tactic no matter whether you are for or against either proposal.

The fact that politicians who have the ability to affect peoples lives use their power for political gains and returning favors is disgusting!

ivanolo · 07-29-2006, 09:20 PM

WTH happened to those checks and balances?! WTF happened with democracy?! I thought we--well, you. I'm not a citizen yet--were the ones that really had the power.... Career politicians suck sperm whale cock!!

Undertaker989 · 07-29-2006, 10:56 PM

Politics is funny. Humans are funny actually. Stick to family and TRUE friends (not aquaintence friend bullshit or fake ass 2ond hand shit), they are the only people who are real to you.

ivwshane · 08-10-2006, 03:52 PM

Who can you trust?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...elmet_Guy&only

mistawiskas · 08-10-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ivwshane

Who can you trust?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...elmet_Guy&only

I'd trust that to be true rather than false.

ivwshane · 08-18-2006, 04:37 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...701485_pf.html

Why should I pay taxes? Seriously! Why should I pay taxes if the money is going to be wasted?

~~eyezik~~ · 08-18-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cr@cKpiPe tE@sEr noOb!

That was so unpatriotic! Get out of my country!!!! God bless America and only America!! God makes Americans, not humans!!!

Was that sarcasm?

GirlsRidePonies · 08-19-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackalope

so anyone else here a libertarian?

It's the closest to what I would describe myself as, though I'm not quite as anti-government programs as they are.

Socially liberal, financially conservative and all that.

ivwshane · 08-20-2006, 12:30 AM

Should we pay any attention to these guys?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/oneworld/200...79581155875399

Undertaker989 · 08-20-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackalope

so anyone else here a libertarian?

I'm moving closer towards being a total libertarian all the time. I allmost feel that every state should be its own country basically, and not rely on any centralized government b/c the bottom line is, America is too big and diverse to be one unified country. But, that is another discussion.

ThatHideousStrength · 08-20-2006, 11:22 AM

In 15 years America will completely fall apart under its own wrath. nuff said.

Look at history.. every great nation fell.

Undertaker989 · 08-20-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by djmihow

In 15 years America will completely fall apart under its own wrath. nuff said.

Look at history.. every great nation fell.

I wish t3d stays around longer than 15 years so we can comment on it then b/c I don't feel this is the case. If anything, I think America will get fedup with its lacking sense of right/wrong and its movements towards people acting like robots, and either split up into seperate, independant government entities or have a movement towards a better sense of morals/ethics.

ivwshane · 08-21-2006, 10:51 PM

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/21/bush-not-leaving/

~~eyezik~~ · 08-22-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ivwshane

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/21/bush-not-leaving/

Fuck that.

mistawiskas · 08-22-2006, 04:06 AM

I'm starting to think this Iraq crap has to end soon. We can't help people who won't/don't want to help themselves. I believe that factor wasn't concidered in the long-range plan.

HEAVY-D · 08-22-2006, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mistawiskas

I'm starting to think this Iraq crap has to end soon. We can't help people who won't/don't want to help themselves. I believe that factor wasn't concidered in the long-range plan.

Ok we invade Iraq in order to free the Iraqi people yet we know nothing about the Iraqi people. We don't know their languages, customs, religions, mores, etc. And we expect them to make an American style democracy in 5 to 10 years when it took us 200+ years to get to where we are now? I'm sure the Iraqi people have their own ideas of what freedom is and it's not what we are trying to force down their throats. They will have freedom but it will be one they want not the one we want them to have.

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07-29-2006, 09:20 PM	permalink #38
ivanolo Cheap Bastard Jan 2005 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 2,872 (#28) Thanked 1x in one post x0	WTH happened to those checks and balances?! WTF happened with democracy?! I thought we--well, you. I'm not a citizen yet--were the ones that really had the power.... Career politicians suck sperm whale cock!!
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Jackalope Original Gangsta Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: Clute, Tx Posts: 4,338 (#10) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x37	so anyone else here a libertarian?

07-22-2006, 04:54 PM	permalink #33
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: CA Posts: 3,774 (#15) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x43	I try not to associate myself with any party, that allows me to keep my views open and my choices unbiased. If I had to choose I would probably pick the republican party if they actually acted on what their party supposedly stands for but as it stands now, I would have to side with the democrats.

07-29-2006, 10:33 AM	permalink #36
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: CA Posts: 3,774 (#15) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x43	I haven't found any sources for this yet and if he wasn't from california I'd be more excited (because we all know where a majority of californians stand). http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archi...lican_says.htm

07-29-2006, 11:16 AM	permalink #37
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: CA Posts: 3,774 (#15) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x43	GOP makes conditions on wage increase. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060728/...o/minimum_wage I'm sure this has been going on forever and I'm sure both parties have done this at one time or another but it's still a dirty tactic no matter whether you are for or against either proposal. The fact that politicians who have the ability to affect peoples lives use their power for political gains and returning favors is disgusting!

08-10-2006, 03:52 PM	permalink #40
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: CA Posts: 3,774 (#15) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x43	Who can you trust? http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...elmet_Guy&only

08-18-2006, 04:37 PM	permalink #42
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: CA Posts: 3,774 (#15) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x43	http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...701485_pf.html Why should I pay taxes? Seriously! Why should I pay taxes if the money is going to be wasted?

08-20-2006, 12:30 AM	permalink #45
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: CA Posts: 3,774 (#15) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x43	Should we pay any attention to these guys? http://news.yahoo.com/s/oneworld/200...79581155875399

08-20-2006, 11:22 AM	permalink #47
ThatHideousStrength Tweak Minion Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Posts: 4,197 (#11) Thanked 5x in 4 posts x0	In 15 years America will completely fall apart under its own wrath. nuff said. Look at history.. every great nation fell.

08-21-2006, 10:51 PM	permalink #49
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: CA Posts: 3,774 (#15) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x43	http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/21/bush-not-leaving/

08-22-2006, 04:06 AM	permalink #51
mistawiskas McGuyveristic tedencies Jan 2005 Last Seen: Yesterday Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 13,315 (#2) Thanked 8x in 8 posts x376	I'm starting to think this Iraq crap has to end soon. We can't help people who won't/don't want to help themselves. I believe that factor wasn't concidered in the long-range plan.

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