abortion video and comments

ward · 01-20-2005, 03:04 PM

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we watched the video of a late abortion taking place during senior religion two days ago...it was very graphic and intense....

there is no way you could watch this video and not be severely affected..

i was pro-choice before i saw this video now im leaning towards pro-life

i recommend seeing it because there are very few people who actually know what goes on during a late abortion(2nd and 3rd trimesters)

i think that abortions should only be allowed during the 1st month of pregnancy or at most 1st trimester....for example...during the first 3 months you could get an abortion for any reason...but after that it should be illegal...after seeing the video you can see how real a person the fetus is...

basically i want to know what you guys think about this?

i know everyones view would probably change if your girlfriend suddenly told you she was pregnant....but for now whats your view?

and i had to eat lunch after the video
(i dont recommend that)

NoseMaster · 01-20-2005, 03:06 PM

I'm perfectly fine with sacrificing a single life(who wouldn't even be able to support himself) to benefit the lives of two others.

And 2nd trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere.

ward · 01-20-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NoseMaster

And 2nd trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere.

that is false

you can get an abortion as late as you want up until birth

HoldenBurn1000 · 01-20-2005, 03:14 PM

I dunno what the law its in America but over here (England) you can only get it aborted within the first 3 months

NoseMaster · 01-20-2005, 03:15 PM

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And 2nd trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere.

that is false

you can get an abortion as late as you want up until birth

Horse shit you can. Not in the US. Where the fuck do you live?

Jamsan · 01-20-2005, 03:18 PM

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So-called "Partial-birth" abortion is performed in the second and third trimesters and entails (1) inducing a breech delivery with forceps, (2) delivering the legs, arms and torso only, (3) puncturing the back of the skull with scissors or a trochar, (4) inserting a suction curette into the skull, (4) suctioning the contents of the skull so as to collapse it, (5) completing the delivery. A partial breech delivery is not considered a "birth" at common law, where it is the passage of the head that is essential.

Laws to ban this uniquely controversial late-term abortion procedure have been passed in at least thirty states, including: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin. The Utah statute applies only after viability (as defined by the statute). Additionally, Massachusetts and Indiana have a specific ban on state funding of these procedures.

Billkoz · 01-20-2005, 03:20 PM

i voted pro choice

i feel that it should be the womans decison if she whats an abortion or not. But only if they get it done within a certan period of time like 3-4 days after the girl gets pregnent

ward · 01-20-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NoseMaster

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Originally Posted by NoseMaster

And 2nd trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere.

that is false

you can get an abortion as late as you want up until birth

Horse shit you can. Not in the US. Where the fuck do you live?

i live in new york and thats not on that list

nor is California or texas...and those are the 3 biggest states in the country....nor is washington d.c. (i know not a state but a huge city)

Sparky · 01-20-2005, 03:22 PM

Think about it:

You are a 13 year old girl who just had sex for the first time. Your boyfriend used a condom, but something went terribly wrong. You obviously don't know it yet, you figured; hey, he used a condom, there is no way I could get pregnant.

Well, after feeling some symptoms, you just shrug it off, but after a months or so of it, you know something's up. You see a doctor and you find out you are pregnant. How is a 13 year old girl going to take care of an infant? Hell, you probably aren't through middle school yet.

You can't just leave the baby for your parents to take care of, it's just way too much of a burden to put on their shoulders What else are you to do, but get an abortion.

Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious.

And no, that isn't a story about me or anyone I know, it's just something that COULD and DOES happen all the time.

NoseMaster · 01-20-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ward

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Originally Posted by NoseMaster

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Originally Posted by ward

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Originally Posted by NoseMaster

And 2nd trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere.

that is false

you can get an abortion as late as you want up until birth

Horse shit you can. Not in the US. Where the fuck do you live?

I dont see new york on that list do you?

I'm pretty sure "at least 30" is the majority, meaning that it's illegal in the majority of the US. Just because NY is the "best" state doesn't mean anything.

HoldenBurn1000 · 01-20-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Billkoz

i voted pro choice

i feel that it should be the womans decison if she whats an abortion or not. But only if they get it done within a certan period of time like 3-4 the girl gets pregnent

I agree totally, shes the mother and shes the one who has to look after the child, and if she cant/wont than that is just child abuse in a differnt form.

ward · 01-20-2005, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Think about it:

You are a 13 year old girl who just had sex for the first time. Your boyfriend used a condom, but something went terribly wrong. You obviously don't know it yet, you figured; hey, he used a condom, there is no way I could get pregnant.

Well, after feeling some symptoms, you just shrug it off, but after a months or so of it, you know something's up. You see a doctor and you find out you are pregnant. How is a 13 year old girl going to take care of an infant? Hell, you probably aren't through middle school yet.

You can't just leave the baby for your parents to take care of, it's just way too much of a burden to put on their shoulders What else are you to do, but get an abortion.

Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious.

And no, that isn't a story about me or anyone I know, it's just something that COULD and DOES happen all the time.

yes i understand that....most people who receive abortions are too young and dont have money or the ability to raise a child and i do think that the abortion in that case would be the best...but what i said is that late abortions should be banned

Sparky · 01-20-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ward

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Think about it:

You are a 13 year old girl who just had sex for the first time. Your boyfriend used a condom, but something went terribly wrong. You obviously don't know it yet, you figured; hey, he used a condom, there is no way I could get pregnant.

Well, after feeling some symptoms, you just shrug it off, but after a months or so of it, you know something's up. You see a doctor and you find out you are pregnant. How is a 13 year old girl going to take care of an infant? Hell, you probably aren't through middle school yet.

You can't just leave the baby for your parents to take care of, it's just way too much of a burden to put on their shoulders What else are you to do, but get an abortion.

Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious.

And no, that isn't a story about me or anyone I know, it's just something that COULD and DOES happen all the time.

yes i understand that....most people who receive abortions are too young and dont have money or the ability to raise a child and i do think that the abortion in that case would be the best...but what i said is that late abortions should be banned

But an abortion is an abortion. If you were in that position, would you really care what stage the fetus is in?

ward · 01-20-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

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Originally Posted by ward

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Think about it:

You are a 13 year old girl who just had sex for the first time. Your boyfriend used a condom, but something went terribly wrong. You obviously don't know it yet, you figured; hey, he used a condom, there is no way I could get pregnant.

Well, after feeling some symptoms, you just shrug it off, but after a months or so of it, you know something's up. You see a doctor and you find out you are pregnant. How is a 13 year old girl going to take care of an infant? Hell, you probably aren't through middle school yet.

You can't just leave the baby for your parents to take care of, it's just way too much of a burden to put on their shoulders What else are you to do, but get an abortion.

Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious.

And no, that isn't a story about me or anyone I know, it's just something that COULD and DOES happen all the time.

yes i understand that....most people who receive abortions are too young and dont have money or the ability to raise a child and i do think that the abortion in that case would be the best...but what i said is that late abortions should be banned

But an abortion is an abortion. If you were in that position, would you really care what stage the fetus is in?

i shouldn't care because you are right that an abortion is an abortion.....

yet the child isnt viable until the 2nd and 3rth trimesters...and i know that right at conception the child is "alive" with 46 chromosones....but for now im only against late abortions

and another point is...the youngest baby ever to be born premature and survive is 5 months....so that means that at 5 months for now, a person can be born and survive....

thats why i think that in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters...its murder

Sparky · 01-20-2005, 03:38 PM

Well, it isn't going to hurt the baby to kill it, so that shouldn't be a problem. Would you rather the baby lived, but was put up for adoption? That would fucking scar me for life not knowing who my parents were. If I found out my mom was a 13 year old chick, I'd feel like shit.

~~Boltsky~~ · 01-20-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

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Originally Posted by ward

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Think about it:

You are a 13 year old girl who just had sex for the first time. Your boyfriend used a condom, but something went terribly wrong. You obviously don't know it yet, you figured; hey, he used a condom, there is no way I could get pregnant.

Well, after feeling some symptoms, you just shrug it off, but after a months or so of it, you know something's up. You see a doctor and you find out you are pregnant. How is a 13 year old girl going to take care of an infant? Hell, you probably aren't through middle school yet.

You can't just leave the baby for your parents to take care of, it's just way too much of a burden to put on their shoulders What else are you to do, but get an abortion.

Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious.

And no, that isn't a story about me or anyone I know, it's just something that COULD and DOES happen all the time.

yes i understand that....most people who receive abortions are too young and dont have money or the ability to raise a child and i do think that the abortion in that case would be the best...but what i said is that late abortions should be banned

But an abortion is an abortion. If you were in that position, would you really care what stage the fetus is in?

Nplz, you're like TWELVE.

Sparky · 01-20-2005, 03:41 PM

Look, I'm getting sick of the age jokes here. I'm 14 and my 15th birthday is in less than 2 months so fuck off.

~~Boltsky~~ · 01-20-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Well, it isn't going to hurt the baby to kill it, so that shouldn't be a problem. Would you rather the baby lived, but was put up for adoption? That would fucking scar me for life not knowing who my parents were. If I found out my mom was a 13 year old chick, I'd feel like shit.

A good friend of mine was born from a teenage mother who put him up for adoption at birth, and he doesn't know who his real parents are. But does he mope around feeling sorry for himself all day? No, he learned that shit happens. Stop having a fucking identity crisis.

Sparky · 01-20-2005, 03:46 PM

I'm not adopted or anything, but I just threw out that scenario anyway. I mean, c'mon, does a teenage mother really care about killing the baby? No, she probably just wants to get away from all the troubles of being a teenage mother.

~~Boltsky~~ · 01-20-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious.

And no, that isn't a st

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ward is fucking awesome Jan 2005 Last Seen: 05-20-2008 Location: queens, new york Posts: 1,339 (#65) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x11	((IF YOU VOTE PLEASE LEAVE YOUR EXPLANATION)) we watched the video of a late abortion taking place during senior religion two days ago...it was very graphic and intense.... there is no way you could watch this video and not be severely affected.. i was pro-choice before i saw this video now im leaning towards pro-life i recommend seeing it because there are very few people who actually know what goes on during a late abortion(2nd and 3rd trimesters) i think that abortions should only be allowed during the 1st month of pregnancy or at most 1st trimester....for example...during the first 3 months you could get an abortion for any reason...but after that it should be illegal...after seeing the video you can see how real a person the fetus is... basically i want to know what you guys think about this? i know everyones view would probably change if your girlfriend suddenly told you she was pregnant....but for now whats your view? and i had to eat lunch after the video (i dont recommend that)
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NoseMaster Horrible Person Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: Waukesha, Wisconsin Posts: 3,613 (#17) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x0	I'm perfectly fine with sacrificing a single life(who wouldn't even be able to support himself) to benefit the lives of two others. And 2nd trimester abortions are illegal almost everywhere.
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HoldenBurn1000 Mines bigger Jan 2005 Last Seen: 06-18-2008 Location: England Baby! Posts: 1,216 (#74) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x0	I dunno what the law its in America but over here (England) you can only get it aborted within the first 3 months
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Billkoz Senior Member Jan 2005 Last Seen: 04-28-2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 659 (#105) Thanked 0x in 0 posts x0	i voted pro choice i feel that it should be the womans decison if she whats an abortion or not. But only if they get it done within a certan period of time like 3-4 days after the girl gets pregnent

01-20-2005, 03:22 PM	permalink #9
Sparky is not Scooby Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,677 (#9) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x3	Think about it: You are a 13 year old girl who just had sex for the first time. Your boyfriend used a condom, but something went terribly wrong. You obviously don't know it yet, you figured; hey, he used a condom, there is no way I could get pregnant. Well, after feeling some symptoms, you just shrug it off, but after a months or so of it, you know something's up. You see a doctor and you find out you are pregnant. How is a 13 year old girl going to take care of an infant? Hell, you probably aren't through middle school yet. You can't just leave the baby for your parents to take care of, it's just way too much of a burden to put on their shoulders What else are you to do, but get an abortion. Well, I'm obviously pro-abortion. Jeez, if you feel like you aren't going to be a good parent, then why the hell would you want to let the baby be born, then put up for adoption? That just causes too many problems with your child's family life and your conscious. And no, that isn't a story about me or anyone I know, it's just something that COULD and DOES happen all the time.

01-20-2005, 03:38 PM	permalink #15
Sparky is not Scooby Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,677 (#9) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x3	Well, it isn't going to hurt the baby to kill it, so that shouldn't be a problem. Would you rather the baby lived, but was put up for adoption? That would fucking scar me for life not knowing who my parents were. If I found out my mom was a 13 year old chick, I'd feel like shit.

01-20-2005, 03:41 PM	permalink #17
Sparky is not Scooby Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,677 (#9) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x3	Look, I'm getting sick of the age jokes here. I'm 14 and my 15th birthday is in less than 2 months so fuck off.

01-20-2005, 03:46 PM	permalink #19
Sparky is not Scooby Jan 2005 Last Seen: Today Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,677 (#9) Thanked 2x in 2 posts x3	I'm not adopted or anything, but I just threw out that scenario anyway. I mean, c'mon, does a teenage mother really care about killing the baby? No, she probably just wants to get away from all the troubles of being a teenage mother.

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