2001: A Space Odyssey, uh.. A Little Help Here?

Torx · 04-07-2006, 06:43 AM

***SPOILER THREAD***

alright, i just watched this movie and really enjoyed it for what its worth.
god bless, the effects used were waaayy ahead of their time. The movie was extemely "artsy" as well.. which is cool.

Can someone please help me understand the ending? I understand most of the movie, but the ending had me kinda... how should i say it.. i felt like i was fucking high. I can only imagine the hippies getting stoned in the movie theaters when this came out in 68

ive been all over the internet, and everyone either has a different opinion or doesnt make sense either. I havent been to the 2001kubrick explanation site yet, but everyone says its still unclear, so im not going to waste my time.

what do you think of the movie?

mistawiskas · 04-07-2006, 07:21 AM

I read the book before I saw the movie. The book was just as cryptic and nebulous as the film. What I got was that if taken in this context: "for every person that has ever lived and died on earth, there is a star in the sky, upon their death, a person becomes a new star or "star child" and returns to the universe" then at the end of the movie, the astronaught looses his human existence and is born as a "star child"; meaning he got killed and was reborn into the universe; as a new star. Some thing like that.

The end of the sixties was a wierd and psychologically experimental and abstract time. I prefer todays movies that don't rely on headtrips, but rather, rely on groundbreaking special FX.

Wedge_ · 04-07-2006, 07:39 AM

I think there's a fair amount of intentional ambiguity in the film - see the Wikipedia page. The book is a bit clearer, and the first sequel 2010: Odyssey Two, goes into more detail about it, and is a good book as well.

Jackalope · 04-07-2006, 08:17 AM

you mean with the "windows media player" visuals?

He gets trapped in the monolith, which is actually a warp (oh my god it's full of stars) he gets taken to a room, where the things that created the monolith study him, kind of like a zoo kinda thing. when that is over and he "dies" bowman gets reborn as a Star Child. basically he becomes a God.

My name is Nolan, and I am a nerd.

MSP · 04-07-2006, 09:35 AM

I love that movie.

travisty08 · 04-07-2006, 10:23 AM

you can also see 2010, i still thought it was pretty decent for a sequal.

ivwshane · 04-07-2006, 12:23 PM

LOL Torx, I had this same post about two years ago!

Torx · 04-07-2006, 07:47 PM

^-- hahah i bet you cant dig it up!

see you guy's interpretations still dont make sense.
i understand the whole starchild idea, hell for a while i personally believed that and still kinda do.

MSP · 04-07-2006, 07:49 PM

I try not to research heady movies like that too much. I like the mystery, like for the movie to keep my mind churning. Like Donnie Darko, I didn't sit down and read all of the fan sites about it because for me it would ruin the fun.

Torx · 04-07-2006, 08:05 PM

even with all the fan site help, its still one of those movies where "it is what you make of it"

saint seiya · 04-07-2006, 09:34 PM

it's like the mona lisa

mistawiskas · 04-07-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torx

^-- hahah i bet you cant dig it up!

see you guy's interpretations still dont make sense.
i understand the whole starchild idea, hell for a while i personally believed that and still kinda do.

I kind of lean towards a graduation from this existence to something along, perhaps, those lines. It's kind of hard to believe that this is all there is. the movies are better while not stoned IMO.

FFO Boomstick · 04-08-2006, 12:31 AM

Yeah, I just watched A Clockwork Orange earlier this week. I didn't enjoy it all that much and I really can't put my finger on it. Its a disturbing film, but that doesnt turn me off to it. I love the visuals, as I loved the visuals in 2001. I just didn't get anything out of the film.

Seeing 2010 did help a little, and I read parts of the books, but after viewing the films, I found it hard to keep interest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSP

I try not to research heady movies like that too much. I like the mystery, like for the movie to keep my mind churning. Like Donnie Darko, I didn't sit down and read all of the fan sites about it because for me it would ruin the fun.

This is kind of ironic. I bought Donnie Darko and am going to watch it for the first time ever in the next few hours.

I know, I know. My friends consider me the biggest movie buff, but they always have movies I haven't seen, this is one of them.

Torx · 04-08-2006, 02:32 AM

imma put on some astral projection and get wasted to watch this again. Maybe then i'll understand

mistawiskas · 04-08-2006, 06:34 AM

I found this interesting:
http://www.kubrick2001.com/

Torx · 04-08-2006, 07:33 AM

thats the site that i was talking about.

i watched it.
it still doesnt make sense.

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mistawiskas outside the box! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 15,294 (#2 ) My photos: 38 Thanked 10x in 10 posts	I read the book before I saw the movie. The book was just as cryptic and nebulous as the film. What I got was that if taken in this context: "for every person that has ever lived and died on earth, there is a star in the sky, upon their death, a person becomes a new star or "star child" and returns to the universe" then at the end of the movie, the astronaught looses his human existence and is born as a "star child"; meaning he got killed and was reborn into the universe; as a new star. Some thing like that. The end of the sixties was a wierd and psychologically experimental and abstract time. I prefer todays movies that don't rely on headtrips, but rather, rely on groundbreaking special FX.
	unfortunately, it's a fact that there exists *"an inconveinient truth".* Get out of the box, then recycle it.

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04-07-2006, 06:43 AM	permanent link to #1
Torx Indigenous Nudist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Memphis Posts: 9,042 (#3 ) My photos: 104 Thanked 17x in 12 posts	*SPOILER THREAD* alright, i just watched this movie and really enjoyed it for what its worth. god bless, the effects used were waaayy ahead of their time. The movie was extemely "artsy" as well.. which is cool. Can someone please help me understand the ending? I understand most of the movie, but the ending had me kinda... how should i say it.. i felt like i was fucking high. I can only imagine the hippies getting stoned in the movie theaters when this came out in 68 ive been all over the internet, and everyone either has a different opinion or doesnt make sense either. I havent been to the 2001kubrick explanation site yet, but everyone says its still unclear, so im not going to waste my time. what do you think of the movie?

04-07-2006, 09:35 AM	permanent link to #5
MSP Globe Trekker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18,304 (#1 ) My photos: 167 Thanked 11x in 11 posts	I love that movie.

04-07-2006, 10:23 AM	permanent link to #6
travisty08 Tweak Minion Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,934 (#32 ) My photos: 9 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	you can also see 2010, i still thought it was pretty decent for a sequal.

04-07-2006, 12:23 PM	permanent link to #7
ivwshane Dont mess with old school Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA Posts: 4,437 (#14 ) My photos: 70 Thanked 7x in 6 posts	LOL Torx, I had this same post about two years ago!

04-07-2006, 07:47 PM	permanent link to #8
Torx Indigenous Nudist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Memphis Posts: 9,042 (#3 ) My photos: 104 Thanked 17x in 12 posts	^-- hahah i bet you cant dig it up! see you guy's interpretations still dont make sense. i understand the whole starchild idea, hell for a while i personally believed that and still kinda do.

04-07-2006, 07:49 PM	permanent link to #9
MSP Globe Trekker Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 18,304 (#1 ) My photos: 167 Thanked 11x in 11 posts	I try not to research heady movies like that too much. I like the mystery, like for the movie to keep my mind churning. Like Donnie Darko, I didn't sit down and read all of the fan sites about it because for me it would ruin the fun.

04-07-2006, 08:05 PM	permanent link to #10
Torx Indigenous Nudist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Memphis Posts: 9,042 (#3 ) My photos: 104 Thanked 17x in 12 posts	even with all the fan site help, its still one of those movies where "it is what you make of it"

04-07-2006, 09:34 PM	permanent link to #11
saint seiya Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 907 (#94 ) My photos: 6 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	it's like the mona lisa

04-08-2006, 02:32 AM	permanent link to #14
Torx Indigenous Nudist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Memphis Posts: 9,042 (#3 ) My photos: 104 Thanked 17x in 12 posts	imma put on some astral projection and get wasted to watch this again. Maybe then i'll understand

04-08-2006, 06:34 AM	permanent link to #15
mistawiskas outside the box! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 15,294 (#2 ) My photos: 38 Thanked 10x in 10 posts	I found this interesting: http://www.kubrick2001.com/
	unfortunately, it's a fact that there exists *"an inconveinient truth".* Get out of the box, then recycle it.

04-08-2006, 07:33 AM	permanent link to #16
Torx Indigenous Nudist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Memphis Posts: 9,042 (#3 ) My photos: 104 Thanked 17x in 12 posts	thats the site that i was talking about. i watched it. it still doesnt make sense.

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